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And this is my last one. Probably the most difficult of all of them.

All comments positive and negative welcome.

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The Overrun Countries Issues is a fascinating group of 13 issues that has gone unstudied for over seventy years. In 2014, Keith Litchman began publishing comprehensive study of this issue and I have been proud to assist him in his research and efforts. I am currently working with Keith on Book 7, France, hopefully to be released later this year.

First, to address the question of the initial question posed "dynamode" - as to if his copy was a Sc#909a? My opinion is yes. Below you will find two copies for with a side-by-side comparison of Sc#909a and Sc#909. Identification by color alone is how it's done, but in this case you can easily see the difference. The Stamp Smarter does have a reference area you can refer to http://www.stampsmarter.com/learnin...un_home.html.



The script image POLAND or POLANO. Interesting question. At first glance it looks like the POLANO error, A better description of this was hand-correct type. The "D" broke on the plate (look how small the type is) and a plate technician repaired the plate.

Normal "POLAND"


"POLANO" ERROR


"O" ENHANCED to show correction



I strongly suggest you buy Keith's books if you are interested in this issue. Why? They have all up-to-date information with all the MAJOR varieties as well as minor varieties. The images are large, in color are easy to see and understand. SCOTT Publishing, to put it bluntly, has dropped the ball when it comes to this issue and they have done a dis-service got the collectors for over seventy years simply because at the time of the stamp's release this stamp issue was printed on a brand-new untried printing press developed by the American Banknote Company; ABNC refused to release or answer any questions on how the stamp was printed.

I located the Patent for this Press and it turned out to be a forerunner to today's specialty web mutely-color lithography printing presses. ABNC had invented a printing press that was fifteen+ years ahead of the industry and they didn't want anyone in the industry to learn what they had...not even stamp collectors or the Editors of SCOTT Publishing (a printer).

Additionally, "The Encyclopedia of Plate Varieties on U.S. Bureau-Printed Postage Stamps" by Loran C. French, an excellent reference, is outdated in the area of Overrun Countries, based on Keith's study. I should it perfectly clear that when it comes to varieties -- EFO collector and "Fly Spec" Collectors will be in heaven with this issue. Which is another reason you will need these books... to understand the Plate Varieties from the Printing Varieties from the random ink splatter varieties.

As a prime example, the Belgium and France issues were printed at the same time on the same printing form (Type II) with Belgium at the top of the form and France at the bottom of the form. The Belgium form had a problem with the Black Ink. ABNC was printing these issues in wartime conditions, receiving inferior wartime paper, wartime inks; remember the problems with Washington-Franklin inks during WWI.

ABNC had a batch of bad ink (basically incompatible) Black ink-to-paper that appeared during the running of this issue. They had similar issues with the Red and Yellow inks, but to a lesser extent. The Black ink began to "pit", "mottle", "pick" and have very poor adhesion issues compounded by print hickeys, paper shard hickeys and "ghosting" not seen in other issues and not see in the bottom of the sheet. I'm sure the senior ABNC pressmen were tearing their hair out trying to solve the problems. They finally did. They stopped the press, cleaned the Black and Red Ink fountains, plates, platens and blankets and put in new and different ink. Which is why you see three different Black inks in the Belgium flag issue and two different Red inks.




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Here are some examples of the batch of bad Black ink.

Ghost Hickey & pits


Assorted Donut Hickeys, Paper Shards, Pits, etc.


Asst. Hickeys, etc.


Donut Hickey


Field of Hickeys, picks, mottle, etc.


Large Paper Shard Hickey
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Hal.

Thanks very much for the great information. Your time and expertise is much appreciated.

I did not know this issue had so many varieties, until hy-brasil added the stampsmarter link, and also mentioned the dots/blobs that I did not notice.

My old Scott specialised does list several varieties, but I was a bit blindsided by the reverse prints.

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New sections were just uploaded to StampSmarter today on Netherlands and Belgium issues. The StampSmarter sites shows only a fraction of the Plate Varieties we have identified for each issue. This series is just unbelievable for anyone who loves varieties.

I just found this beautiful copy of a POLAND double impression (Sc#909a) just two weeks. It was sitting in a set of 13 singles. These plate varieties are out there if you take the time to look for them.


You are correct about identification of reverse printings and partial reverse printings. Korea, Greece, Netherlands, Luxembourg and others are extremely difficult to determine which printing is which -- and they are easy to get wrong if you do not look carefully at where colors overlap. High-res magnification is the best way to determine which printing you have. The key is to check and confirm multiple points -- not just one.

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Were the majority without error Hal? I'm sure with your book the value of the sheets will increase due to the higher demand?
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Hal.

Yes they are difficult. Having only one copy of most does not help.

Thanks for showing the Poland double impression. No doubt about that one.
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stoma - Yes, the majority were without error and the majority were without a minor variety. However, sheets were permitted to be released by the American Bank Note Company that would never passed Quality Control at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing. Those sheets contain the printing varieties displayed. However, there are distinct PLATE varieties that make up each issue that may be confused with print varieties. This is the reason collectors need Keith Litchman's great new series of books.

Will the value increase due to higher demand? I don't have a crystal ball and I have been collecting far too long to have learned long ago to never...and I mean never attempt to predict what the stamp market will buy, except one thing... "excellent" classic U.S. covers and classic 19th century stamps.

I picked the Overrun Countries Issue because it has been unstudied for over 70+ years and it has been loads of fun Plating something that has never been plated before -- and that MAY be easily plated with today's modern technology - computer scanners.

Hal
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Thanks for the thread dynamode and the information that everyone has posted. I have these stamps in mint condition of 25 and 50 of each country. Also have the Korea error single and I believe on sheet as well.
I've heard of the reverse printing and the fly speaking of each. Didn't really know where to start looking as it is a struggle for me to figure out what color was on top of which. Seems there are many many variations to look for.
This post helps in where to start and kinda what to look for. It will still be a struggle though. I appreciate the pictures and you taking the time to post the pictures and also everyone else that posted their information. At least I feel like I have a starting point.
Also a question about the page that Partime posted. That French book are all the pages like that which shows what to look for? I'm not a big time collector of these and really didn't want to purchase a lot of different books. Would perhaps this book is one ebooks for downloading?

Again thanks to everyone here at the forum.
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