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Babe Ruth Baseball Post Card With Signature Including A Scott 557

 
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Posted 04/09/2018   4:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Lioness2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello,
I purchased this a man who claimed his elderly relative gave to him. He stated he wasn't sure if the signature was real, but claimed relative was huge Yankee's fan. He stated he never had the signature authenticated. Since I am a collector of Babe Ruth Items,I was pleased to purchase it along with other stamps and covers to add to my collection.

According to an interview I viewed, was on CBS News, Julia Stevens, Babe Ruth's daughter, expressed that her father never refused to sign an autograph when he was alive. She was 98 years old when the interview occurred.
Apparently she also verified before he passed away, Babe Ruth was signing autographs on paper to give to children at hospitals. This card would have been issued when he was alive based on the cancellation date. He passed away August 16,1948.
The card has his hitting stance photograph at home plate cancellation date as May 30, 1927 including a Scott 557 (common ,perf.11) (The date of his famous 60th home run) addressed to Yankee Stadium including his signature in blue ball point ink. It is in fine condition inside a protective UV cover
Since I am not so familiar with postcards, can any postcard collector inform me if Babe Ruth's signature initially was issued along with this specific card on this date to give to fans? The previous owner said he didn't know the answer. Any information would be truly appreciated. Thank you.

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Posted 04/09/2018   4:51 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This smells bad. The stamp has another cancel as shown here



The wavy line cancel also look incorrect, but I'll let the postmark experts weight in on that.

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Posted 04/09/2018   5:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lioness2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
yes, Don. I noticed it as well,don't know about the cancellation. Would like to know if other postcards had signatures on it as well for this date.
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Posted 04/09/2018   5:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ball point pens weren't available until 1945 so it would have had to be signed almost 20 years later near his death.
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Posted 04/09/2018   5:17 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The image on the postcard is actually Roger Maris hitting his Home Run #61 in 1961.
http://www.classicphotos.com/base/base-mtoo.html
Don


Another image of Marris 61st, note the batting box is the same, the socks, etc.

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Posted 04/09/2018   5:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Truly incredible. Given that Roger Maris wasn't even alive in 1927, it is amazing to see that someone had the foresight to predict he would break the record 34 years later - and even perfectly illustrate Babe's 'hitting stance' so accurately!! I'm actually surprised that we didn't hear that this stamp was a 'special printing' as well!!

Any 'collector of Babe Ruth items' would know this was Roger Maris and not Babe Ruth. It's one of the most famous home runs of all time - an iconic picture.

We won't even discuss the fact that Babe Ruth never wore a batting helmet...they were not even invented in 1927!!

Good grief...
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Edited by mdroth - 04/09/2018 5:36 pm
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Posted 04/09/2018   5:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lioness2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mdroth. ..this is surprising to me. This is too funny..That man should have told me the truth. I won't have bought it! Thank you for telling me the truth. Now, lessons learned, will get my money back!
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Posted 04/09/2018   5:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lioness2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I loved the Bambino I have other paper items, so I'm not that upset.
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Posted 04/09/2018   5:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lioness2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have advertising cards with his auto signatures, and including original photos. Fortunately it was not from this seller.I didn't spend a lot of money so lesson learned.
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Posted 04/09/2018   5:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I must say that the signature looks very good.
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Posted 04/09/2018   5:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scroll down at this link and check out the fake Babe Ruth covers.

http://haulsofshame.com/blog/?p=31477
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Posted 04/09/2018   5:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lioness2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am laughing I have the Topps 234 of Roger Maris. I know that is real!
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Posted 04/09/2018   6:02 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As part of the 'lessons learned' you might want to revisit how you evaluate those who you buy from.
Don
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Posted 04/09/2018   6:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lioness2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for all the comments. Need to watch out also on eBay since I see the three r's signatures being displayed for auction in past. Excellent link,rogdcam!!
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Posted 04/09/2018   6:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modernstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The answers to this post show the great wealth of experience on this forum.
I'm impressed by the input, and the way each of you solved this and showed it to be a fake.
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Posted 04/09/2018   6:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lioness2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don,
I feel that if a person is selling at different venues,a buyer hopes that individual would be honest what items he or she chooses to sell, and not taking advantage of people for their own personal gain with false manners. Unfortunately, this man who sold it to me surely must have needed the money. However, that type of manipulation is wrong. You absolutely correct. You have to be careful who sells things to you. Glad I didn't spend a lot of money on it.
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