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Exhibiting a thematic collection - using purely philatelic covers such as FDCs and souvenir covers

 
 
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Posted 04/14/2018   11:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Prexie3c to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi there everyone,

I am asking the following question on behalf of a co-worker who wishes to exhibit his thematic collection.

Would the use of purely philatelic covers such as FDCs and souvenir covers lead to the exhibitor being penalised?

Thanks

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Posted 04/14/2018   11:56 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
in general, yes
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Posted 04/15/2018   03:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Prexie3c to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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in general, yes


Thanks. He understands the need to include some commercial covers in his exhibit.

Is there a stipulated maximum allowable percentage of philatelic covers in such thematic exhibits?
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Posted 04/15/2018   04:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add steevh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Surely this must depend on what kind of thematic he is going to exhibit.

Like, if I did an exhibit on "Moon landings", I would find it very boring if it was made of just commercial covers of the few US Moon landing issues, when so many interesting philatelic covers were produced to celebrate the event.
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Posted 04/15/2018   05:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Prexie3c to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Surely this must depend on what kind of thematic he is going to exhibit.

Like, if I did an exhibit on "Moon landings", I would find it very boring if it was made of just commercial covers of the few US Moon landing issues, when so many interesting philatelic covers were produced to celebrate the event.


Thanks, steevh.

I should have been more specific and added that he is into the topic of Printing, from the start of the written form to the development of the various types of printing over the centuries, from woodblock to the printing press to lithography etc.

He has plenty of stamps and philatelic covers that were produced to celebrate major milestones and anniversaries of significant events in the history of printing, but finding the appropriate commercial covers has proven to be difficult.
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Posted 04/15/2018   06:51 am  Show Profile Check paperhistory's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paperhistory to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If exhibiting at the club level - it depends. Clubs have a wide range of judging criteria for their shows, from clubs that use APS judges all the way down to a club that gives out an award for the best exhibit on commercially produced album pages.

Under APS/ATA guidelines for topical or thematic, philatelic covers are OK but you should think about why they are being used. If it's the stamp or the postmark, that's good. If you are using something for the cachet, that is traditionally out of bounds in a topical or thematic exhibit (but would be OK in a first day cover/illustrated mail exhibit) where the focus is on the cachets. Use of commercial covers is better when possible; their inclusion usually increases the philatelic knowledge displayed in an exhibit as well as increases the level of difficulty of acquisition. In a thematic exhibit you want to try and include as many other things as you can - revenue stamps, meters, etc.

One other course might be as a display exhibit - where you use other nonphilatelic material along with philatelic material. There would be more latitude there and I could easily see how different types of printed material could be used in a printing exhibit!
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Posted 04/15/2018   07:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was thinking about the possibility of a display exhibit also, when I read paperhistory's reply. Just thinking out loud, examples of nonphilatelic material could be photographs of printing apparatus, or examples of actual documents printed with a given technology, that go along with the covers and stamps being exhibited.

The trick is to understand that the judges are looking for a "story." They are not looking for a collection of stamps and covers. It sounds here like the story could be "a philatelic history of printing." The stamps and covers would be arranged according to the technological development of printing, accompanied by appropriate non-philatelic material.

That's just a quick sketch of what can be done with a display exhibit. The important thing is that there is a "story" being told, and the stamps and covers are used to illustrate the story, and not just to show off a collection.
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Posted 04/15/2018   8:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stuart MacNeil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is just my opinion. But, I really don't like all these rules and guidelines around exhibiting your stamps. I live in Toronto Canada and have a nice collection on Canada and US mnh. It is complete including booklets, souvenir sheets, coils in pairs and singles and imperfs. I can make any number of exhibits out of it, Prexies, Small Queens, US Commems. Etc. I feel left out of the exhibition circuit just because I don't have die proofs, essays etc. I just want these stamps to be seen not judged.
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Posted 04/15/2018   10:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don't forget 'corners', which are envelopes (preferably GPU) (Genuinely Postally Used) with the return address of a company that supplied a particular printing technology.

Extra points if the cover comes with a slogan (eg "best offset printing west of Omaha") or an appropriate illustration.

If you are clever enough to follow blcjr's suggestion of "examples of actual documents printed with a given technology", be sure to include both the originals and enlargements (where useful).

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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Posted 04/16/2018   08:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chipg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stuart:

Collections are often best shown at the club or group level. Exhibits (different from collections) are best shown at philatelic exhibitions. This is not because there is any prohibition or rule, but mainly because most of us have a hard time checking our egos and seeing something we may have spent much time and money on panned by the judges.

Nothing is keeping you from "renting" whatever number of frames you want at a show. (That's all exhibitor really are - people who pay the frame fee - rent - for the duration of the show). However, once you put something up in the frames, it will likely be judged, as exhibiting is competitive. Most shows need to have a minimum number of judged frames to maintain their "level" on the philatelic exhibition circuit.

Once in the frames, you're basically talking about the equivalent of figure skating judging - expectations and scoring criteria that vary by sub-discipline (postal history, thematic, traditional vs. pairs, dance, singles). If you're in the pairs class, you can skate any way you want, but if you go off of the "standard," your score will be crap, even if the audience goes wild.

Are you ready to have your exhibit listed as "certificate" or "silver-bronze" in the results? You can exhibit anonymously, but the ego hit is still there. If so, the audience may go wild when they see it, but the judges will be forced to apply the judging standards when giving it a grade.

Good luck and have fun.
Chip
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Posted 04/16/2018   7:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stuart MacNeil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No ego here! I could get the worst score ever and I wouldn't care. Most Canadians have no idea that the Prexie issue is way more interesting than say the Admirals or Tercs for example. When I have shown my collection at local shows or a specialist collector people are always amazed and say they had no idea how nice MNH stamps are. Some people have never seen the pictures on their stamps! I plan to show my US philatalic show sheets and cinderellas at ORAPEX in a couple of years. Guaranteed never seen in Canada. Pity
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