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Posted 05/14/2018   11:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Cul_Lector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I finally got a cancellation on it, though I had to travel far to do it. I sent it to a friend who got the cancellation for me.
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Posted 05/14/2018   11:27 am  Show Profile Check Petert4522's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Impressive. So now what?

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Posted 05/14/2018   11:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cul_Lector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going to order another one but this time I won't have it cancelled. I sure do like that cancellation. I was told that it couldn't be cancelled.
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Posted 05/14/2018   11:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



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though I had to travel far to do it

Only as far as your post office.

Nice cancel Cul_Lector, but get yourself a mint one to.

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Posted 05/14/2018   12:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cul_Lector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was tempted to try it at my P.O., Robert, but didn't think it would happen because the stamp wasn't issued. I contacted a fiend of mine and he did it for me. After all, Robert, as you know, Canada Post will not cancel unissued stamps. I guess my friend forgot to mention that.
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Posted 05/14/2018   1:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cul_Lector...Here is an example..1969 but an example..with P.O. cancel

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Posted 05/14/2018   2:54 pm  Show Profile Check watermark's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add watermark to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These labels are not official stamps. I trust this was canceled by a by a clerk who didn't know it wasn't a stamp. I assume this never actually got mailed as that would be considered fraud by the post office.
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Posted 05/14/2018   3:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Think about it .... From the "running a huge business" perspective, it is not training-time efficient that every clerk and carrier be fully familiar with every stamp that Canada and Newfoundland have ever issued. Odd things will slip through the system and be accepted as postage. It is even easier to slip something past the canceling machines. Every postal service around the world plays the odds that the vast majority of its customers are honest and that the mail is properly paid. The cost of catching/stopping the last percent or two of fraud far exceeds the loss from that fraud. The exceptions get the media attention far beyond the proportion of their occurrence.
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The "Wayzata" was never issued, and while used copies exist, they were either illegitimate favour cancels or accepted by a postal clerk who assumed they were valid stamps. The stamps were printed in Minneapolis, sold in Minnesota, and most of the issue destroyed in Minneapolis. The Newfoundland Post Office never received any of the printing.
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Posted 05/15/2018   10:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
By Peter Mosiondz, Jr.


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Newfoundland specialists insist that the stamp is real for they document several covers posted from three Newfoundland post offices and then delivered to the addresses without any assessment of postage due. The three covers are postmarked in the latter part of 1932.



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Posted 05/15/2018   11:48 am  Show Profile Check jogil's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are some post offices that allow you to hand cancel your own stamps with their hand canceler.
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Posted 05/15/2018   3:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jarnick to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robert

While I respect Peter Mosiondz I don't know the Newfoundland specialists that he is referencing. Yes, 1932 covers do exist, all philatelic creations of Lawrence Clark in his attempts to get a catalog listing for the issue. I can also show you a number of covers franked with Christmas Seals that were processed and delivered. But, it doesn't make them legitimate stamps.

The cover you illustrated it was mailed in New York to St. John's with the USA 7c Airplane stamp paying the postage. The existence of the Wayzata on the cover is without meaning.
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Posted 05/15/2018   10:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In the full article by Peter Mosiondz,Jr. he states that since the stamp was never issued at the post office used examples are not legitimate. He states the three criteria for proper usage.

http://www.americanstampdealer.com/....aspx?id=283
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