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Posted 06/11/2018   08:11 am  Show Profile Check jogil's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sometimes it appears that the popularity of a stamp catalogue has to do with the numbering system that it uses more than with what is in it even though the numbering system can sometimes be somewhat confusing and not follow smoothly. Thus, getting a number for a stamp variety gives it recognition. What many strive for is recognition from others. Is not success part of being recognized, liked and/or preferred by many for what you do, offer and/or sell? In philately, a catalogue numbered recognition for something you discover is the ultimate seal of approval.
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Posted 06/11/2018   08:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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the numbering system can be somewhat confusing and not follow smoothly.


Tell me about it Jogil..the N.S.S.C. book is constant thinking process to identify with Scott numbers.

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Posted 06/11/2018   08:24 am  Show Profile Check jogil's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The best catalogue relating to Newfoundland which is now a province of Canada is The Newfoundland Specialized Stamp Catalogue (N.S.S.C). Why should it have to bend to Scott numbers when it covers and lists many more things as a specific specialized catalogue than Scott does? If Scott is not listing as many varieties as found in it, what is the point of having to refer to Scott?

Another catalogue related to it is The British North America Specialized Stamp Catalogue. This catalogue covers all Canadian postage stamp issued from 1851 to 1951 in more detail than other Canadian stamp catalogues. The approach taken by this catalogue is to use the die of a stamp as the determining factor in its identification classification. Thus, all variations and varieties of the same stamp are found under one listing. This is a very logical system.

See: www.nfldstamps.com
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Edited by jogil - 06/11/2018 08:50 am
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Posted 06/11/2018   08:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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If Scott is not listing as many varieties as found in it, what is the point of having to refer to Scott?


Jogil, I understand where you are coming from..The only reason I use double numbering systems when it comes to Newfoundland stamps is the rest of the world sells, displays and deals with Scott numbers..It is confusing at times, but I have survived so far..haha

Robert
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Posted 06/11/2018   09:04 am  Show Profile Check jogil's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wert: What year N.S.S.C. catalogue do you have? Do you have the most up to date N.S.S.C. catalogue?
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Edited by jogil - 06/11/2018 09:09 am
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Posted 06/11/2018   09:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No I do not Jogil..Was going to buy the latest one, but it only comes in a PDF format and not a book form..SAD.

Mine is a 2002 version..Really wanted a newer colour version.

Robert
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A specialist catalogue should name and list ALL stamps with different printing methods, perforations, papers and watermarks.

Fly specks and mishaps during printing - missing colours, misperforations and all such circus attractions are one-off stands that add hardly any knowledge to philately.
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Posted 06/12/2018   03:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Galeoptix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The "inverted Jenny" is a circus attraction that should never find a place in my collection.

Anything originating from a SINGLE sheet printed the wrong way may have a curiosity value but NO philatelic value whatsoever :)
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Anything originating from a SINGLE sheet printed the wrong way may have a curiosity value but NO philatelic value whatsoever :)



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The "inverted Jenny" is a circus attraction that should never find a place in my collection.



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Fly specks and mishaps during printing - missing colours, misperforations and all such circus attractions are one-off stands that add hardly any knowledge to philately.


I disagree with these posts.
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Edited by dynamode - 06/12/2018 07:58 am
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When you compare the Scott Specialized catalog (for US Stamps) to Unitrade then you realize the difference in detail. Both are good in their own way but I feel the Scott catalog is far more detailed but more cumbersome to browse. However, it is a "Specialized" catalog so some collectors may expect that level of detail.

Here is Whitworth's Reentry 3, noticeable in the UL corner and constant. It's hard to see but should this be in the catalog? I think it's borderline.


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Posted 06/12/2018   08:02 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you dynamode.
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Posted 06/12/2018   08:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And thank you dynamode

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Posted 06/12/2018   08:38 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm. I often wonder just how many of the inverted centres and inverted overprints one finds in catalogues were deliberately made by printers at the behest of interested individuals.
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Posted 06/12/2018   09:00 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was thanking dynamode for revising his post after I contacted him privately.
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Posted 06/12/2018   09:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I often wonder just how many of the inverted centres and inverted overprints one finds in catalogues were deliberately made by printers


I have seen it firsthand..Printers waste, unfinished stamps brought out the back door...Years ago I was in a stamp store talking to the owner and a guy came in with a brief case..I told the owner, go head and see what he needs, I have lots of time....He went to see the guy and he opened his brief case and the store owner yelled at him to GET OUT of my store..He left quickly and the owner told me he had a brief case full of illegal half printed stamps and printers waste...Wish I could have caught up to him..haha..oh well.

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