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Posted 06/13/2018   11:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add korsbecker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi All

Just got these and I don't have much experiance with these stamps. But it seems that there are many fakes around so any help on these is much appriciated. If they are fakes please provide info on what gives them away.

Number 1
perf 12



Number 2
perf 12



Number 3
perf 12



Number 4, 1
perf 12



Number 4, 2



Number 4, 3



Number 5
perf 12 x 14



Number 6
perf 12



Number 7
perf 12



Number 13
perf 12




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Posted 06/13/2018   12:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For the moment I see 4(2,3)5,6,7 forged stamps and ovpt.
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Posted 06/13/2018   2:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add korsbecker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi perf12

Thanks for a quick response... could you elaborate a bit on what gives them away?

Korsbecker
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Posted 06/13/2018   3:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have not worked on or seen my EGYPT collection in 5 years ,but those first issues look wrong . The overprints are too heavy and stamps have a poor background design .

I'll wait to see whats others say .
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Posted 06/13/2018   5:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For instance here is your 4.2. A real stamp on the left.
You can see that your stamp is a forgery (ovpt. included).
Check the details and it becomes very evident.Your stamp
was trimmed to make beleive it is an imperf variety.
(old trick)


photo from Kelleher Auction; Imperf between
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Posted 06/13/2018   6:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your no.7 is authentic ! Details are the same.just a couple ;there are many.(Have too look closely at the stamp too see if its not an
ink jet printing)just an after thought..


Photo Feldman Auction 2016,this one is imperf.
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Posted 06/13/2018   6:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your no.6 Forgery

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Posted 06/14/2018   03:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add korsbecker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Perf12

Thanks for the reply very enlightening... didn't think of inkjet printer... but it would make sense with tha pale color. The stamp have the correct watermark though! I don't know how much effort would be put in it if the stamp was made with a printer or how difficault it is to fake watermarks?

Any thoughts on the rest?

Henrik :-)
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Posted 06/14/2018   10:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your no.3 looks like a Type IV. with touching and joined dots.

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Posted 06/15/2018   01:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add korsbecker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Perf12

which catalogue do you use ? I only have Michel Nordafrika and Scott World.

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Posted 06/15/2018   7:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A typical crude forgery on eBay...

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Posted 06/15/2018   7:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your stamp on the right.Notice the stamp was overprinted turned
180 from the left stamp

(Kelleher Auction)
Some interesting info on this stamp.
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtop...73&start=100
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Posted 06/17/2018   1:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add korsbecker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Perf12

Very interesting.. unfortunately I cannot make a match between my stamp and one of the 10 types. Also the overprint does not match. But I find it very difficult to do the matching so maybe om wrong??

Korsbecker
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