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1c 1851 Plate 12 Stamps

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Posted 09/28/2021   4:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is a tough one. I'll give it a stab and say 12L12. Compares favorably with t he only copy I could find on-line at Siegel and is reproduced below as best as Siegel can allow. Also the faint blur going down the right side of the stamp. Also the small blur at about 2 o'clock in the O of ONE. The blurry bottom line and faint, almost broken top line.

Note the dot at the lower left of the lower left plume.
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Posted 09/28/2021   4:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Caper, I don't think it is a second-row stamp. The small portions of the plumes visible in the stamp above indicate that it (the top stamp) is a C Relief.
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Edited by dudley - 09/28/2021 4:45 pm
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Posted 09/28/2021   5:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good eye Dudley!



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Edited by Caper123 - 09/28/2021 5:25 pm
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Posted 09/28/2021   5:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dudley, there is this image in Seigel also which matches nicely and has a small bit of the plume of the above stamp visible in upper left, but sadly, it was not plated for the sale.


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Posted 09/28/2021   5:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What I like about the above stamp is the incompleteness of ornament S, T & U along with the blur. Most Relief B stamps on Plate 12 have complete ornaments there.
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Edited by Caper123 - 09/28/2021 6:00 pm
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Posted 09/28/2021   9:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add widglo46 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The position I've found that I think maps best is 32L12. I cropped the image from the block of 78 sold in Siegel's sale 1006 (lot 1535). The interstitial blurring matches my stamp at the top, bottom and right side better than any other position that I could find.
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Posted 09/29/2021   03:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PKsPassport to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don,
I can understand where you're coming from about the acid problem as in this picture you can see it started on it. But at the same time I can understand where dudley is coming from. The picture I posted was my first piece I'd purchased and fell totally in love with the patriotic cover. I've never really researched it I just loved looking at it. I'm glad you all posted information on how to slow the acid problem down. Thanks for the information gentlemen.
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Posted 09/30/2021   7:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Widglo46 - the 32L12 has a lot in common, for sure. I'm not warm an fuzzy about the lower portion of the stamp tho. Too bad the example has so much of it missing. That complete but fuzzy bottom frame of your stamp does not match up well from what we can see on the 32L12.
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