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France Scott #9 1 France Ceres - forgery?  
 

 
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Posted 08/10/2018   1:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Willwood42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I recently purchased a France #9 at auction. After receiving the stamp at home and upon close inspection I am beginning to think it is a forgery based on information at stampforgeries.com ( http://stampforgeries.com/forged-st...album-weeds/ )
The stamp has 97 pearls, 5th neck shading line from bottom is complete, ears of corn in headdress look correct. However there is no second shading line in the margin "keys" on the left side, shading under eye looks too weak, the "P" in post looks wrong,the front margin of the first strand of hair below the ear looks wrong and other small issues. What say the community?





A second image showing a poor but I believe genuine copy of France #9 on the right




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Posted 08/10/2018   3:12 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You might take a look at Bobby's thread on the 1 Franc vermilion, which includes images of both fake and genuine

http://goscf.com/t/59089&whichpage=...nc,vermilion
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Posted 08/10/2018   3:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is a fake. You pointed out some of the issues. Also, the hair is very problematic in general (the bottom back of the head in particular), the letters are all poorly done, the lower left corner ornament is wrong, the short horizontal components between the vertical background lines are missing or in the wrong locations and so forth. Other folks can speak to whether or not the cancel is appropriate.
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Posted 08/10/2018   4:11 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


I say buying higher value stamps from unknown sellers on eBay starting at $0.01 is a crap shoot. Send it back to him.
Don
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Posted 08/10/2018   8:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Willwood42 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Don,

You caught me. I will try to keep my hand out of the cookie jar, but it can be so tempting.

Thanks for the other replies, looked at the earlier thread and realized I didn't even get the quality forgery.

-David
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Posted 08/11/2018   6:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi David,

It looks like a Fournier reproduction.

This is a Fournier tete-beche from Sparks Auctions in December 2012.

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