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Posted 11/25/2018   11:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add richar babcock to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
WE need to have up dated research on revenues.It seams to me that the boston book is the final word but we are now in a time with far more research capabilities then in 1899.The best thing I enjoy the most is the research.
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Posted 11/25/2018   11:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add richar babcock to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
When you send a document in for a cert, They test things like paper gum Ink to make sure it has not been forged or tampered with. Im not an expert but on these documents you can clearly see the same ink was used to write the entire document including the stamp and 2nd for. And a different ink when they were paid in full. Thank you
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Posted 11/25/2018   12:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So what. Even if it is it might have been written weeks later with the same pen. And it takes a close examination to know whether it is the same ink or not in any case. It's physically impossible for that stamp to have been put on that document on that date. It's that simple.
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Posted 11/25/2018   12:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They test the gum, paper and ink on a stamp of that cv?
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Posted 11/25/2018   1:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For this type of usage it's possible that it might go under the VSC6000 to look at the ink in the cancel. Just to cross the t's and dot the i's, even though the date really seals it. Not guaranteed, of course.
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Posted 11/25/2018   6:52 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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When you send a document in for a cert, They test things like paper gum Ink to make sure it has not been forged or tampered with. Im not an expert but on these documents you can clearly see the same ink was used to write the entire document including the stamp and 2nd for. And a different ink when they were paid in full. Thank you


You appear to be adamant in your conviction that the APEX cert is correct and that what Bart and others are telling you is wrong. I would recommend sending this item in to the Philatelic Foundation for their verdict. The conclusion reached on the APEX cert does not align with reality.
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Posted 11/26/2018   03:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add richar babcock to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
lol does it really matter find your own conclusion wait you all ready have.
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Posted 11/26/2018   06:23 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Do not think that you are getting some random, anonymous opinions here.

Some of the members of this community, including some who are replying to your thread, are noted and renowned experts. These people are some of the same people who currently do the expertization for the certification organizations.

It would be wise to listen and learn from them.
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Posted 11/26/2018   08:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mr. Babcock posted this same item on the Frajola board a few years back and received the same advice. He didn't listen then, and I don't expect a different result here.
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Posted 11/28/2018   12:40 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just received confirmation from the APS that the expertization for this item was done in-house by Mercer Bristow using the APS reference collection. It was never sent out to Eric, Richard, or any other revenue experts.

Very bad decision by APEX. This isn't the sort of item that a reference collection would likely tell you anything about. It requires intimate familiarity with U.S. revenue stamps, their usage, and original delivery to analyze.
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