Hong Kong Treaty Port Cancels

Rod, nice stamp you found there:




I found this on the rodsell.com website:

PASEDAG & CO.

This general import and export business was established in Amoy, in about 1850, by Mr. C. K. Pasedag. Since that time its operations have been extended in a number of directions, and the present partners, Messrs. A. Piehl and B. Hempel, carry on a large coal trade, and are agents for the Asiatic Petroleum Company, and the Norddeutscher Lloyd, the Hamburg-Amerika, the Nippon Yusen Kaisha, and the British India Shipping Companies.

Source: p. 828 Wright, Arnold, : Twentieth Century Impressions of Hongkong, Shanghai, and Other Treaty Ports of China: Their History. People, Commerce, Industries, and Resources.
London: Lloyd's Greater Britain Publishing Company, Ltd., 1908.

That is a keeper!
Regards,

Linus

Wow! Linus
whom would have thought that would get solved !




Linus, since you specialise, you are most welcome to that stamp,
email me a suitable address, and I'll post it off.

I received it from Jos Sanders, delighted to pass on his generous legacy.

Hello perf12. and all... I am new to the community and after reading your posting on the obliteration's of Chinese treaty ports. I was so fascinated that identity through some old cigar boxes I had it included a large envelope stuffed with Hong Kong stamps. Much to my amazement, in addition to fascination, I found a number of these treaty ports cancels the Victorian issues! I spent most of the afternoon classifying them according to the pamphlet you so kindly posted to this forum. I wanted personally to thank you for stimulating my interest in a new area of collecting.

Welcome to SCF, Lance, glad you found us.

It is amazing what all of us can find in our own collections and accumulations with just a little added knowledge from other members who specialize in things.

We like pictures around here, so when you tease us with a discovery, we love to see what you have found. Once you figure out uploading images to SCF, please show us your "new-found" treaty port cancels.

Scanned below is block of 6 from my own Hong Kong treaty port cancel collection. This block was cancelled in Swatow, China.

Linus






From Webb, page 327:

Hello Linus… Fantastic block of six from SWATOW. I can't wait to begin posting pictures of the things I have found that are of interest to me and hopefully to many others in the SCF... I must admit, I will have to figure out the rules on sizing and wonder if it's best to use a scanner/computer, or if it can be done with an iPhone

Hello Linus… I keep revisiting that beautiful block of six with the Swatow Cancel. I was wondering if there was a way of evaluating the Hong Kong treaty port stamps for some sort of value? I've seen a few Items up at auctions. Thanks for any help you might suggest.

Lance

You can always look at what completed items sold for on eBay. Complete cancels are worth more than fuzzy, partial cancels. Shanghai, Canton, and Amoy are the most common. Prices can vary, and it is difficult to price the rarer cancels as they are in great demand worldwide.

Shown below are some nice Amoy cancels from my collection. I would pay $5 each, easily, for any of these stamps.

Linus

AS I was going through an OLD envelope of Honk Kong I discovered a few Treaty Port cancels . I thought these Canton #'s 21and 22 were were nice examples. Thank you again perf12!!!!!

Thank you so very much Linus...I will check that out! I tried to add a couple of examples and made a mess!!! Didn't catch the "Honk" until it was posted. and when I tried it posted twice. I hope this can be corrected!!!!

Linus, I just found another 3 Treaty Port Cancels I believe. Amoy and Shanghai and a B62 I'm not certain about. The B62 does not seem to match the example in the catalog. Any help with that one please?

Lance

Nice scans! We know you are new on this forum, we all make the same spelling mistakes, don't worry about it, we knew what you meant. You will learn to proof-read carefully before you hit send, for your own pride!

The B62 killer goes back as far as the 1860s, when adhesive stamps were first issued in Hong Kong. The B62 killer was used in Hong Kong, and it was used in combination with a circular dated cancel. Therefore. early stamped covers had 2 cancels, the Hong Kong date cancel and the B62 killer. Webb lists 31 different types of the B62, but don't ask me to identify yours, because this is complicated, and I am no expert. B62 killers are quite common on HK stamps.

Here is one from my collection on a wing margin:

Linus

Thank you Linus I Your information was valuable for me. As a collector I always avoided China stamps in general. Now I wish I had paid more study time on them. Fascinating material!
THanks for posting that beautiful B62 cancel and all the information!

Glad to help, thank you for the kind words.

Your stamps, scanned above, are very nice. Beautiful Canton socked-on-the-nose cancel. Thanks for sharing them with the group.

When I reference "Webb" I am talking about the reference book shown below. It was about $150 years ago, and I bought it from Subway Supplies, but it was well worth it if you like Hong Kong stamps.

Just like all kinds of stamp collecting specialties, once you buy the book, you are hooked!

Linus

Amen to that.

Thank you Linus for the tip on the book! will keep an eye out for it. I miss Mel and Arlene they were quite a pair and had a huge supply stock. I was the guy that got them out of NY and settled in Altoona.