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Franklin Has A Funny Face. Scott #40

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Posted 02/16/2019   4:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add oldurn to your friends list Get a Link to this Message



So, Franklin has a very strange looking face here. Any thoughts about what might be going on?
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Posted 02/16/2019   7:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Left side of design ok as #40 - or at least something from the reprint plate, aka proof.
Middle and upper right looks like a piece of another stamp glued on. Maybe a #7.

This stamp is probably rebacked and maybe even had gum added. Look at the perfs all around. There is stuff in them that shouldn't be there.
#40 was issued with no gum.

This stamp was someone's creation.
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Posted 02/16/2019   8:17 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


It looks Photoshopped. The stitch line extends beyond the stamp. Not sure if games are being played here but it can't be a good thing.
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Posted 02/16/2019   8:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don, That "stitch line" is a image scan issue if it goes through the stamp and background. I experience it very often. If the line goes through an important plaiting point, I have to rescan the image to put the line elsewhere. At 2400 dpi, the line will cut somewhere.

Oldurn, can you scan it over and repost it here? Maybe the face blur was a scan issue too.
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Posted 02/16/2019   8:32 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed it might be a stepper motor scanner problem; I assumed the OP would have noticed it since the face area is what the thread was about.
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Posted 02/16/2019   8:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes I get that line in a lot of my scans as well. Very annoying.

It usually doesn't cause this degree of distortion, however. Usually just the skew of the image at the point of the line.
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Posted 02/16/2019   9:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Never mind the stitchline, the perforations look totally different on both sides of that line, and that sort of bugs me?

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Posted 02/16/2019   10:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perfs at right are obvious fake, as is the rest of the stamp as I outlined, pending scan verification. Stamp made from spare parts.
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Posted 02/16/2019   10:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add No1philatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm! One post and no response. Maybe the answer is what others have described. Digital manipulation of image. The face area looks like it was mushed as lines are not at all normal looking as if it was modified.
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Posted 02/17/2019   01:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Taking a closer look at that stamp, it appears to have been cut along design and pasted with another stamp. It is hard to tell how the face parts got mixed and where the cut there is.

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Posted 02/17/2019   05:36 am  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The purpose of this topic must be to amuse the OP. Maybe he/she has a lot extra time?

The image is of two different stamps spliced together along that line that appears to be a scanner artifact. Look at how the portion of the stamp right of the line is out focus.
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Posted 02/17/2019   06:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicPhilatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And oldurn hasn't returned to this thread since posting it...
Looks like a time waster.
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Posted 02/17/2019   09:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
FWIW, oldurn is the name of a HipStamp seller.

ETA: from Texas
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Posted 02/17/2019   09:22 am  Show Profile Check docgfd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add docgfd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Then its also odd the same question wasn't posed on the HipStamp forum...
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Posted 02/17/2019   09:52 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Looking closer at this image, I am doubting that this is a scanner malfunction. The image appears to be two different sized images combined; this would explain why the left hand side is shifted down at the top and shifted up at the bottom.

If this is a scanner glitch, I cannot think of a way it could shift it in two different directions and/or distort the image size.
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Posted 02/17/2019   10:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I definitely agree that we need clarification on whether the scan is legit.

That said, when I tried to scan a die sunk large die proof, I just gave up. The problem was differing heights of the surface. The 'sunk' part would never get in focus. Scanning a 3D object in 2D == nope. If the stamp is stitched as it looks, that could create a similar 3D problem, and cause the lower section to be out of focus.

I agree - confirming scans front/back here are needed.
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