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Russian Army Of The West 1919

 
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Posted 04/11/2019   12:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ottox to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Russian Army of the West.What is this stamp on the back(RIO,RIC?)
Has Any Value?

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Posted 04/11/2019   1:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicPhilatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Probably a collectors mark.
Some collectors used to put a stamp on back of their stamps to show it was part of their collection, as anti theft/ownership. It's a terrible idea, and has largely fallen out of favor in these more enlightened modern times...
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Posted 04/11/2019   8:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Freibergs to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Something you want to keep in mind when looking at these stamps. The left hand image is a real stamp. The right hand image is a fake stamp.
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Posted 06/10/2020   09:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
West Russian Volunteer Army.
10k Counterfeit with misperf.

Standard test for counterfeit.
Genuine has 10 dots each side of Eagle
Eagle's tail feather does not touch bottom (Straight) Line.
Paper thickness on this item was .0035"

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Edited by rod222 - 06/10/2020 09:20 am
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Posted 06/10/2020   11:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rod,

I believe the author of the article has got the wrong information.

The example labelled as "genuine" in the cutting is a forgery.

It's both Ceresa's and Barefoot's "First Forgery".

Many articles have quoted one by Varo Tyler in 1983 in American Philatelist on this point (identifying the "First Forgery" as genuine) but he changed his view in a subsequent article in 1984.

I like the misperf.

In my experience most of the eagle stamps are reprints rather than forgeries.

There are at least three different forgeries.
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Posted 06/10/2020   11:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a previous discussion about the identification of forgeries of this issue:

http://goscf.com/t/57938
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Posted 06/10/2020   3:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Nigel,
I like your link, excellent,
that cutting was from the American Philatelist 2011
Appreciate the correction, shall save your ID List.

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