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Posted 06/06/2019   12:33 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add revenuecollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I picked this up at COMPEX this weekend. It purports to be a privately rouletted R27a. It's on piece, unfortunately not large enough or with any printing to provide context.

It appears that the upper left corner was severed by the diagonal cut exhibited by the underlying piece, and then reattached.



It's not the first 1st Issue private roulette I've seen. I have an R5a that also is privately rouletted:




There is another rouletted R5a with a clean Philatelic Foundation Certificate:

http://pfsearch.org/pfsearch/pf_grd...lledfrom=lkp




Does anyone have any other examples, either plausible or implausible?
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Posted 06/06/2019   6:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have a rouletted R5a Just like yours.
Though I will have to find where I put it.
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Posted 06/07/2019   09:56 am  Show Profile Check 1typesetter's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 1typesetter to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dan,

Just semantics, but wouldn't your R5a be considered pin perfs instead of roulettes (left and right) though they do look like roulettes at the top and bottom.
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Posted 06/07/2019   10:18 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'll be honest: I don't know the technical differences between rouletting and pin perforation. Is it the removal of paper as in normal perforations? On the documentary and proprietary battleships, the two types are distinguished as "rouletted" vs. "hyphen-hole perforation", with the latter having paper removed.

I think that "rouletted" covers a somewhat broad spectrum of stamp separation. After all, the 1st and 2nd issue "sewing machine perfs" (sorry Jim) have at times been actually stated in Scott as "privately rouletted, sewing machine perfs". I see now that most have been changed to "privately perforated, sewing machine perfs".
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Posted 06/07/2019   11:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
"sewing machine perfs" (sorry Jim)


Grrr...



Jim
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My understanding is that rouletting does not remove paper and perforations do remove paper. In looking at the 1898 Battleship stamps, my mentor, the late Ernest Wilkens described the separations as roulettes and slot perforations (an older descriptive term). Hyphen hole perforations and slot perforations describe the shape of the paper being removed, probably to distinguish them from the circular (more or less)holes removed as implied by the simple term perforation.

Just to be pedantic, does a sewing machine PERFORATION remove paper?
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Posted 06/07/2019   12:14 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ron,

I don't believe so. The holes appear to be caused by paper being pushed aside by the needle (or whatever puncturing device was used) as opposed to paper being removed as with traditional perforations.

A few examples from my collection:







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Edited by revenuecollector - 06/07/2019 12:21 pm
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