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Posted 06/17/2019   06:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Laurie 02 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi team, I have come across this cover and I was just wondering if this is a genuine use?
Any assistance would be appreciated

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Posted 06/17/2019   07:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hoosierboy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Morning Laurie and all,

Yep, it could be and may well be; however, we need to see the entire item not just the stamps and cancels. Is it year dated anyplace or within its contents if available? Look forward to seeing more.

Russ

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Posted 06/17/2019   07:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Russ
Unfortunately, it's an empty envelope with no date and I've never seen another example of a #24 and possible #25 or #26 used this way
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Posted 06/17/2019   08:05 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Please post the entire cover
Don
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Posted 06/17/2019   08:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Will do Don
In bed at the moment so I will post in the morning!
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Posted 06/17/2019   09:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As others have said, we need to see the entire cover. However, it could be a three cent domestic letter rate plus a 1 cent carrier fee.
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Posted 06/17/2019   09:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wtcrowe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The combination of a Scott 26 and Scott 24 used on cover from NYC is not rare. It indicates a carrier usage. Similar covers are known in the 1860 and 1861 time period.
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Posted 06/17/2019   5:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here we go!

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Posted 06/17/2019   6:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chipg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, the U.S. Post Office issued stamped envelopes with 3c + 1c to facilitate just this, though they weren't used that often. Look up U28 and U29 in your Scott catalog.
Chip
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Posted 06/18/2019   02:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Chipg
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Posted 06/18/2019   10:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 3 paid the city to city rate and the 1 paid for the drop rate. As mentioned above the 1 with the barred oval cancel is cancelled by the carrier.
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Posted 06/18/2019   11:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stallzer, no. Not a drop rate, not 2 cancels.

As SPQR and wtcrowe state earlier, the 1 cent stamp is pays the carrier fee to get the letter from an outlying area to the post office more rapidly and the 3 cent stamps gets the letter from NYC to Stonington. The cancel is a duplex device applied at the NYC post office canceling both stamps with one hit.
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Posted 06/18/2019   12:46 pm  Show Profile Check paperhistory's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paperhistory to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
With the duplex it's almost certainly 1861. As noted, the use is not rare but it's certainly better than a regular first class cover. Here's one I just wrote up...
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Posted 06/18/2019   1:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for your replies, I purchased the cover for $25.00 so I reckon I got a bargain.
That is a lovely cover paperhistory and thanks for the dating of my cover.
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Posted 06/18/2019   1:36 pm  Show Profile Check paperhistory's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paperhistory to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
$25 isn't a bargain but it's not a bad price. (if I had your cover in stock and was selling it at eBay, I'd start it at $24.99 and I'd expect it to sell). It wouldn't surprise me to see a bourse dealer price it at $40-50.
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Posted 06/18/2019   1:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks paperhistory, it'll sit alongside my #24 strip of 3, and as I mentioned I haven't seen this combination on a cover before, so it adds to my collection.
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