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Is This Q12 Reperfed On The Right?

 
 
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Posted 07/07/2019   10:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rogdcam to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Would like opinions please. Reperfed, perfs added or normal?


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Posted 07/07/2019   11:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To my eyes, it is reperfed where you suspected. The holes themselves are not rounded, especially the the last 5-6 perfs towards the bottom. Mine is a purely amateur opinion.
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Posted 07/07/2019   11:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Makes my head spin.

The perforation holes on the bottom look larger than those on the other three sides.

On the other hand, the perforation holes on the right side don't look to be square with those on the other three sides; the margin gets wider towards the bottom.
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Posted 07/08/2019   03:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks normal to me.

I took the top perfs to compare with the other sides. Full disclosure: a short section of the top was used and was extended against the bottom perfs by repeating and overlapping a small portion.


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the perforation holes on the right side don't look to be square with those on the other three sides.

I think they are. The perfs on the right were roughly punched; note the large chip within the 4th hole from the top. Many of the holes below that are incompletely punched/not perfectly round; worn pins, maybe. The gauge/spacing is correct to me, the hardest thing to forge. With perforating wheels used, the opposite sides should be essentially parallel; the whole stamp will not necessarily be perfed absolutely square. The side perfs vs. the top and bottom are out of square by about 1.5 degrees here.

Don't expect perfectly formed round perfs on genuine stamps.

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Posted 07/08/2019   07:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your input with a special thanks to Hy-brazil. Great stuff!
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Posted 07/08/2019   08:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting approach. Not sure why perf pins in one line would be more/less worn than another line since they theoretically both experience the same number of cycles during manufacturing. Right side still looks odd to me.
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Posted 07/08/2019   4:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wtcrowe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A big problem is unskillful removal of hanging chad. When done improperly the holes have a strange appearance. Additionally, poor removal of unpunched perforations also leads to an odd appearance.
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Posted 07/09/2019   12:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Loupy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perfs at top right closer to design border than perfs at bottom right = perfs on right side added to straight edged stamp.
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Posted 07/09/2019   12:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add archerg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think wtcrowe makes the correct call here, think someone excavated attached perf discs at right to improve appearance of centering. "Played with", and off-putting, but not quite reperforated.
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Posted 07/09/2019   4:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'd love to see a close-up of the reverse, zoomed in on the side in question.
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Posted 07/20/2019   5:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob Roy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for the ignorance, what is "reperfed", other than the verbally obvious meaning of stamps being perforated after production?
The site's glossary considers it to be too obvious to need explanation.
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Posted 07/20/2019   6:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Short for reperforated which means perforations added or missing/damaged perforations replaced in order to enhance a straight edged or damaged stamp. An alteration.
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Posted 07/21/2019   12:40 am  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Not sure why perf pins in one line would be more/less worn than another line since they theoretically both experience the same number of cycles during manufacturing."

It is quite common for perf holes to non-uniform. The mentioned hanging chads is a perfect example - cut most of the way around but incompletely cut on one side and they hang from the same side of the hole, thus from the same side of the stamp.
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