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Classic France, Cancellations And Shades

 
 
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Posted 07/12/2019   04:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Sorsh to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

i recently bought some pages with classics 1853-1875, the vision is to focus on cancellations.

i bought a brandnew Y/T catalogue to focus on shades, but which catalogue (online or paper) offers information on cancellations, rarity and priceguides and so on?

can post some pics later.
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Posted 07/12/2019   05:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Sorsh,

This is one of the best sites I've ever come across:

http://marcophilie.org/index.html

Let me know if you need any help
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Posted 07/12/2019   06:05 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maury is actually better than Yvert, but Yvert also has a catalogue that focuses on nineteenth century material. There are also books about cancellations by Pothion.

Yvert and Pothion offered here

https://www.thematimbres.com/PBSCCa...CatID=381459

There is also Mme Chauvet's book about the classics offered as the L Fayette collection by Spink

https://spinkbooks.com/index.php?ro...oduct_id=292

My experience has been relatively limited - I keep meaning to work through these things, but something else always intervenes. And I'm really hopeless at separating colours!
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Posted 07/12/2019   07:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The specialized catalogs for cancels & markings is 'Pothion".Many different types of "Pothion catalogs".
Many can be found on e bay or Delcampe,as usual with specialized books ;they can get expensive for the whole serie .These are mostly for specialists.If it's just for a few stampos it's not worth it IMO.

Pothion uses "Indices" or number levels for rarety from 1-39, 39 being the most rare.

http://docs.philateliques.free.fr/m.../pothion.htm

http://philatelie-annecy.fr/wp-cont...DOT-2018.pdf

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For colors there is the "Nuanciers" where all the color varieties are listed.These also are for specialists.Link below has different types for individual stamps.(Lien)

http://www.philaclub.net/philaclub/fr/index.php
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Edited by perf12 - 07/12/2019 07:44 am
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Posted 07/12/2019   08:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am puzzled how you can identify color from a book or computer screen . There is a lot lost in translation and each catalog has a different way to describe color then each author of a book has there own way to describe color .

The only true way to describe color is to have the shades represented , is to have the actual stamps under the same light layed out in front of you with the catalog next to them .

My advice is to buy a few classic collections plus buy a few stamps off of dealers or eBay ,now your ready to lay it out in front of you to identify color .
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Posted 07/12/2019   09:14 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Indeed. I have the guide to colours of the Ceres/Napoleon issues. I can't say that I've found it very helpful, although that may well be my fault, rather than the author's. Even in the Chauvet book, I have trouble picking out the differences in colour/shade. And even if you have the stamps in front of you, you have to make allowances for the effects of light, storage etc over 150 years. My brain hurts.
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Posted 07/12/2019   09:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So what are you going to do with your 50 stamps of YT no.9 in front of you? Are you going to name the color for each stamp ?.What will you base your choice of color from a given color discription? The general catalogs don't show pics of ALL the color varieties.There are not many full color discription books available anyway; at least for French issues.If you are collecting a given country better using the guides of the country in question.
Everyone knows for example SG specialized catalogs are for British areas,not Scott or YT.
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Posted 07/12/2019   09:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sorsh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@Bobby

yes, that one I knew, but I don't fully understand it, also seems lacking on some points, so quite sad to find it's one of the better :(

@goeffha

thanks, once I see what Y/T has in it, I might get that specialized one (which I guess I should have started with)
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