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Okay I Give Up... Googles Translations Are Jibberish

 
 
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Posted 07/18/2019   11:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Timm to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
In the Facit Catalogue Postal stationery:
Stamped envelopes.
What is the difference between Facit #4 and Facit #5
10 ore over 12ore ?
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Posted 07/19/2019   11:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My old Michel Ganzsachen-Katalog Europa West lists 2 items for the "10 ore over 12 ore" envelopes (U.5 and U.6).

The U5 is "blue to ultramarine" and is cataloged at 350DM unused and 350DM used. The U6 is "ultramarine to gray blue" and is cataloged at 2.50DM unused and 6DM used.

The catalog notes that there are various settings of the value tablet inscriptions on these first envelopes (U1 - U6). "The prices are valid for the cheapest type." Specialists are guided to Sveriges Helsaker by S. Lillehook, 1947 and 1950.

Hope this helps.
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Posted 07/19/2019   11:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add erilaz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I might be able to puzzle out the Swedish, but I'd need to see the text, since I don't have the Facit catalog.

I do have the Ascher catalog, however, and my German is MUCH better than my Swedish. It appears that these two cards are listed by Ascher together as #4, where he differentiates five types, based on the types of envelopes #1 and #2 that were overprinted:

#4a: Overprint on envelope #1a (blue)
#4b: Overprint on envelope #1b (grey-blue)
#4c: Overprint on envelope #1c (Prussian blue)
#4d: Overprint on envelope #1d (ultramarine)
#4e: Overprint on envelope #2 (ultramarine)

Ascher distinguishes #1 and #2 thus: #1 has KONGL-POSTVERKET L. A. B. NKPG. embossed on the left side-flap, whereas #2 has a shorter inscription, KONGL-POSTVERKET, embossed on the right side-flap.

My guess is that Facit #4 corresponds to Ascher #4a-d and Facit #5 corresponds to Ascher #4e, but without seeing the Facit text, I can't say for sure.


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Posted 07/22/2019   10:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Timm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you both. It starts to clear up the differences. Not complexly but it is a start.

Unfortunately I have to translate Swedish to English using online Goggle translate and Goggle has extreme difficulties with philatelic terms.

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