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Posted 08/12/2019   11:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Louise411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello;
This (stamp 3205c?) is supposed to be a imperforated stamp of Sylvester and Tweety.
Tweety's on top of a mailbox and Sylvester is trying to swat Tweety.
Now, I ordered an imperforated off e-bay from a seller who has a good record. not 100 per cent but good. I received a thinner white card-board stock paper with a picture on one side and a USPS description on the other. There is no peel-off 32 cent stamp on it. There is a picture of a 32 cent stamp but it is all one picture. It is an ink picture. It cannot be used as a stamp. It is not a stamp. So I e-mail the seller and described what I just described. And, This is the reply.

"3205 is a pane of 10, but 3205c is a pane of one with no die cutting. If you still don't want it,..."

Also, Now I find that there may be a 3204 imperforated? Well, my question is this; Is the seller correct that this unusable picture on trimmed cardboard is a stamp?

I have many imperforated stamps, but they are stamps.
Isn't this just trimmed cardboard?

Thank you all for any information on this.
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Posted 08/12/2019   11:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Caveat: Only a part time collector of US

Are you sure you cannot see an imperf self stick?
I have seen these advertised as you say, and as a "panel"

3205C is a booklet pane of 1, with NO diecutting.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1998USA...AOSw-jxZdLa2
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Edited by rod222 - 08/12/2019 11:58 pm
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Posted 08/13/2019   12:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Louise411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am sure. I just re-checked it because you asked and I checked very carefully. Neither the 32 cent stamp in the upper left corner nor the entire page peel off.
On the back it starts
When Bugs Bunny agreed to be the
ambassador for STAMPERS (upper sm) and
America's coolest stamp collecting kids,
he had no idea his mug would appear on
one of the most popular stamps ever.
Another paragraph and United States Postal Service 1997 USPS
Yes I have looked at it very throughly. And, it is one piece with no peel-off.

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Posted 08/13/2019   12:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Louise411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is like your link but there is no peel-off at all.
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Posted 08/13/2019   12:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK Louise,
we'll await the specialists.........
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Posted 08/13/2019   12:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Louise411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much.
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Posted 08/13/2019   12:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Further reading on "Uncut press sheets"
(Still confused)
http://goscf.com/t/36555
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Posted 08/13/2019   12:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Louise411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I read the posts on your StampCommunity link and that is a lot to absorb and look up. I am confused but working on it. Might this be a "Press-Sheet?" Thank you for that link. Tomorrow is good for research on this. One of the posters, wt1, wrote about "Press-Sheets." I do not know what a "Press-Sheet" is. But, from his description - I think I might have one. The idea that a peel-off would not look different from a regular peel-off stamp. If that was from a Die-Cut sheet. Then an imperf might need the stamp to be,"cut-out?" If you wanted to use it.
If IF I have that clear than, couldn't someone print one on a fancy printer? Of course maybe there is an invisible mark only the post office computer or ultra-violet could read?
I am still confused about this but there is a lot to learn tomorrow. Thank you for the great links, rod222
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Edited by Louise411 - 08/13/2019 01:04 am
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OK should have checked my catalogue to refresh my memory. The catalogue numbers for single stamps ends with "a", the pane of 9 ends with "b", the pane of 1 ends with "c". Will edit my response to correctly reflect these.
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What you have is a valid stamp. You can, with difficulty, peel the entire pane (3205c) from the backing paper. Or you can trim it down to stamp size & peel off the stamp. Again, not easy since there are no die cuts to start the peeling process. But these are usually collected intact. To peel, use the point of a sharp knife (or stamp tongs) to pry between the pane & the backing paper. Once you have a corner lifted, the process is easy. But if you want to collect the stamp, it is best to leave it on the backing paper!
Added: Note that the stamp on 3204c does have wavy die-cuts surrounding the stamp. This makes it easy to peel the stamp from the pane. On both 3204 & 3205, the panes of 9 are all die-cut. There is one difference though. On the imperf version (3205b), the die-cutting extends all the way thru the backing paper. In addition, the die-cutting runs all the way to the pane edges. Not so on 3204b. Note that this makes the imperf Looney Tunes somewhat fragile, especially the Bugs Bunny. It is very easy to accidentally damage an imperf Bugs Bunny (3138). But the USPS had pretty much solved this problem by the time Tweety & Sylvester were issued. In addition, for whatever reason, the die-cutting on the 3rd Looney Tunes issue (Road Runner & Wile E. Coyote) is the only one that does NOT extend thru the backing paper or extend to the edges of the pane. I.e., the die-cutting on the panes of 9 (3391b & 3392b) appear identical and do not extend all the way thru the backing paper for either variety.
One last observation. On all but the Road Runner issue, as long as an unused stamp is still on its backing paper, you can determine which pane it came from. This is because the imperf panes of 9 for all but the Road Runner have an additional curved die-cut horizontally across the back of each stamp to make removal from the pane extremely easy.
Added: One last correction. Even the Road Runner has the extra horizontal die-cuts on the imperf pane. I never realized this until I looked. Also, while the die-cuts on 3392b do not extend all the way thru the backing paper, they are visible whereas those on 3391b are not.
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Edited by JLLebbert - 08/13/2019 03:33 am
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Posted 08/13/2019   04:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks JJL , solved nicely.
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Posted 08/13/2019   5:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Louise411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you both, rod222 and JLLebert
This is very helpful.
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Edited by Louise411 - 08/13/2019 5:27 pm
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