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Posted 08/20/2019   4:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add GregAlex to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I was thumbing through Friedberg's "Intro to U.S. Revenue Stamps" today and came across a couple illustrations of something I'd never heard of: Revenue meter stamps. Apparently Pitney Bowes created a meter machine that printed revenues. It was only in use a few years in the mid-1960s, before revenue stamps were abandoned.

Does anyone have examples they can post? What do these go for currently?
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Posted 08/20/2019   5:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add codehappy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some examples are shown on this page:

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Unite..._federal_tax

The "rarity factors" give some idea of scarcity -- very rare on document, the proof tapes are more commonly seen.
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Posted 08/20/2019   5:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The only one I have, but an actual used example, still on the stock card where I bought it for 50 cents many years ago.

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Posted 08/21/2019   02:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GregAlex to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting that the two on-document examples that Eric is offering don't seem to bear out the price you'd expect for a very rare revenue. But then, demand is the real determiner of price.

Thanks for your help everyone!
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Posted 08/21/2019   4:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revinmn to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's an example attached to a document.



It's on a 1956 indenture executed in Illinois.

Then there is this one from 1965 where the meter is printed on the document itself.


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Posted 08/23/2019   11:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ericjackson to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The information given on the Wikibooks pages is not accurate. On both stamps, used examples are more readily available than the zero cent specimens.

The eagle meter is a scarce item and difficult to find. The IRS building meter is readily available in used condition.

Documents can be found with the IRS building meter. The eagle meter is a truly rare item on document.
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Posted 08/23/2019   5:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StateRevs to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Revenue meters exist at the state level as well.

Florida, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, New Hampshire, North Carolina, and Texas all used them. I have no doubt left out a few states as well

They paid taxes on deeds, liquor, tobacco, feed stuffs (for farm animals), driver's licenses, etc.
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I am aware that the following states used meters in real estate transfers: Delaware, Florida, Massachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Washington, and possibly a few others. I personally have examples from about four of these.
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Posted 08/27/2019   07:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revenuermd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Here is one of the meters from Massachusetts on a deed. Complete with the federal red documentary stamp.

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Here is an additional example from Pennsylvania. This meter was used in Bucks County north of Philadelphia.
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Posted 08/28/2019   09:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add therevenueman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Pennsylvania sure charged a lot for real estate transfer taxes in the 1967 transaction.
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Posted 08/29/2019   6:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revenuermd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The PA real estate transfer tax rate has always been 1% and began in 1952.
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