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Does Anyone Have An Idea What The Towns Are On These German Cancels?

 
 
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Posted 08/22/2019   12:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add griffbo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello.
Can someone identify the town names on these cancels? The resolution isn't very good but any help will be most appreciated.
Thanks
David




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Posted 08/22/2019   05:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jkelley01938 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Would the the one be Dusseldorf?
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Edited by jkelley01938 - 08/22/2019 05:49 am
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Posted 08/22/2019   06:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LordInVader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@jkelley01938
No, that cannot be Düsseldorf because the state of Hessen is legible. Düsseldorf does not lie in Hessen.
Interesting note: "Dorf" is the german word for "Village". There are hundredsof places with a name that ends in "Dorf" in Germany.

Now to the identity: It could be one of the following:
Bad Sooden-Allendorf, Allendorf (Eder), Allendorf (Lumda), Frielendorf, Amdorf, Friedrichsdorf, etc.
There is too many to list....

The second Stamp seems to say "Mittelpunkt der..." Which is translated as: "Midpoint of..." below that you can read "Ostmar...". I think it says "Ostmark", which was the name of Austria under the 3rd Reich, until 1942.
(https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpen...-Reichsgaue)
Austria was annexed starting March 12th, 1938. Your Stamp has a date of either 15.3.38, 16.3.38 OR 18.3.38. (Or the same numbers in the 20s)
This means your Stamp was cancelled within less than a week to less than 2 weeks of the Annexation. I dont know how this impacts its value...

THere has been a Discussion about "Ostmark" before on here: http://goscf.com/t/50874


Unfortunately the third stamp is too faint with an unfortunate combination of colors. I cannot make it out.

Hope this was helpful!
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Edited by LordInVader - 08/22/2019 06:16 am
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Posted 08/22/2019   07:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I like the airship postmark.

This appears to come from the town of Walldorf, a few miles south west of Frankfurt.

Here's a scan of the complete postmark from the great stampsx.com site:


The text at the bottom says "Erholung am Rande des Flug- und Luftschiffhafens Rhein-Main",

basically something like, "Relaxation at the edge of the Rhein-Main airport".

This airport is now the Frankfurt International Airport.
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Posted 08/22/2019   07:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add griffbo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
jkelly01938, LordlnVader and nigelc. thank you all for the great information. It's very much appreciated and the links were very informative.
Thanks again
David
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Posted 08/22/2019   08:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The origin of the "mittelpunkt" postmark was a surprise for me.

It's from the town of Furth im Wald in Bavaria close to the border with the Czech Republic.

The full text is "FURTH I WALD MITTELPUNKT DER OSTMARKPOST."

Here's a scan of the full postmark, again from stampsx.com:
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Edited by nigelc - 08/22/2019 08:04 am
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Posted 08/22/2019   08:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add griffbo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again nigelc,
David
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The bottom stamp is likely from the WWII era. When areas to the east were incorporated into Germany, these violet two-line cancels were frequently used.

The faded violet color is hard to read, and the town names can be long. Also, the town names were often changed several times over the course of a few years. So, unless you have these stamps on piece, and some print resources, they are VERY difficult to identify.
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Posted 08/23/2019   12:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add griffbo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for that information bookbindrbob it is very helpful.
David
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