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Posted 08/22/2019   3:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Guti to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Found this on internet. USSR 1973 and the srange is that is writen "Post"... But there is no issue like this in the oficcial catalog of USSR and Rusia. Anyone information about that?
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Posted 08/22/2019   9:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Willwood42 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The use of English on the stamps is probably a good indication that something is not on the up and up with these "stamps".
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Posted 08/23/2019   12:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vayolene to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That is a "private issue" (in other words : cinderella) but I can't read "post" anywhere.
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Edited by vayolene - 08/23/2019 12:29 am
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Posted 08/23/2019   12:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Guti to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not in english. Is writen "#1055;#1086;#1095;#1090;#1072;" wich means "Post"
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Posted 08/23/2019   01:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vayolene to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
All right.
I can read russian but I thought you were talking about the english word.
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Posted 08/23/2019   02:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Would it possibly be the Mari-El Republic issue (Perhaps Mordovia)

see also Linn's : "Soviet Overprinted stamps...Quest or Quagmire."
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Edited by rod222 - 08/23/2019 02:30 am
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Posted 08/23/2019   03:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vayolene to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think so.
If those "stamps" were issued in 1972/3,it was long before the break-up of the USSR
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Posted 08/23/2019   04:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 22crows to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would agree with that. Also anything purportedly issued from any of these places would have the name of the place on the stamps.
The word Medvedi on the side of the 1st and 3rd sheets is Russian for Bears. The wording on the other sheet is Wild cats.
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Posted 08/23/2019   05:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you both.
I obviously did not give the matter, the depth of thought it warranted.

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Posted 10/21/2019   02:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add steveb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Does anyone know what the face values equate to? similar to real postage costs or perhaps considerably more? These issues remind me of things like "Duck Issues" and similar used like tickets for Park access sometimes for hunting or just revenue raising for the Park or conservation.
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Posted 10/21/2019   03:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vicaf60 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thesecan hardly be called cinderellas (at least in the meaning I understand it),they are fakes to collect money from collectors, and they were not issued in the 1970s. They are modern artefacts of the same nature as "Mari-El Republic issue (Perhaps Mordovia)" (as mentioned by rod222.

First, they imitate postage stamps of that period (the writing "USSR Post" and face values in kopecks, corresponding to the postage ratesin force then - 4 k(opecks) inland letter up to 20 gr, 6 k airmail inland letter, 10 k registered inland letter, 12 k surface international letter), and that was absolutely impossible at that time - the man who did it would have definitely ended in jail.
Second, cinderellas were issued in the USSR at that time - membership fee stamps (of the type I post here - modern Dynamo Sporting Society membership fee stamp from Belarus) or fund raising stamps issued by some All-Union (Federal) non-profit organisations, but they were never issued in sheetlets of multiples then, it started much later, in the last years of the USSR, and those were private initiative (which was punishable in the USSR in the 1970s).



As a kind of conclusion - these are modern fakes to fool foreign philatelist who are unaware of the Soviet and post-Soviet realities and can take them for real postage stampsor, at least official cinderellas, not just "money vacuum cleaners".
By the way, the above mentioned Mari-El Republic and Mordovia (I can add Buryatia, Tuva and a number of others have nothing to do with the breakof the USSR - they were and still are republics within the Russian Federation, and they are not stamp issuing authorities. So all those colourful piepce of paper with their names on them are productsof the same kind - fakes printed to take your money away, and are produced by the same people who "issue" stamps of Kongo
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