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Posted 09/11/2019   02:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add finches to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

Total of 6 KGV's that differ from what 'appears to be a standard height of 27.5 mm'....top perf trough to bottom perf trough.

5- are 29mm = additional full perf dia', and one not shown 28.5mm = additional perf dia'.

PS. Scan stamp placements not accurate, measurements are.

*Do members have other KGV values/colours with 'similar misperfs' in accumulations PLEASE*.




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Posted 09/11/2019   02:34 am  Show Profile Check KGV Collector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi finches

How are the watermarks and in what perf size?
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Posted 09/11/2019   5:30 pm  Show Profile Check KGV Collector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This might help finches.


Quote:
Comb perf 14.25 X 14 counts 17 perf tips on the horizontal.
Comb perf 13.50 X 12.50 counts 16 perf tips on the horizontal.


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Posted 09/11/2019   10:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
KGV Collector,

Sorry...whilst uploading today's reply, yesterdays image of 6 eg's I have was mysteriously replaced by today's upload of a standard purple compared to a misperfed purple.

I did something wrong in resizing image for upload....many apologies. Anyway members understand occasional KGV stamp is misperfed as 1d purple demonstrates.
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Posted 09/11/2019   10:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
KGV collector,
2 x 1d Greens are Cof A,

1d Red & 1d Purple are Crown over A,

1 x 1d Green large multi,

1 x 1d Green Small multi

At this stage I don't consider perf guages relevent to misperfs BUT am happy to be corrected by learned collectors such as yourself.



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Posted 09/12/2019   09:17 am  Show Profile Check KGV Collector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for clearing that up for me finches.

Will have a look at what I have left of my KGV's to see if I can add to this thread.

Thanks for your very kind words in more than one thread today finches!
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Posted 09/16/2019   12:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sunfort to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have several such stamps and wonder if they are the result of Double Perforations, where the paper between the two close perforations has been removed by the person who used the stamp
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Posted 09/17/2019   6:49 pm  Show Profile Check KGV Collector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
10 years ago had so much Aus KGV info on the tip of my tongue.....


That really is an amazing image of a KGV 1d purple with very obvious different print sizes on the face of the stamps. Interesting no one has got an answer yet.
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Posted 09/18/2019   12:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe I'm a little dim today, but I don't see any difference in the stamp print sizes. What I see is one stamp with one misplaced vertical row of perforations, making the resultant stamp appear higher (taller). I'll have to search through mine, but this seems to be a non-issue to me, unless someone can point it out a little better to me.
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Posted 09/18/2019   09:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Willwood42 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Have to agree with Partime, the stamp images seem to be the same size, whereas it is the physical size of the stamps that are different. Isn't that quite common, or how would we get jumbos?
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The picture keeps changing. I can't figure out what we are discussing now. My previous comments were about a picture with two stamps of obviously different heights.
Now I see the stamps, all about the same height. Again, I don't see much here. Can you clearly point out the area of concern?
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Posted 09/18/2019   6:03 pm  Show Profile Check KGV Collector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So the perforating machine has jumped a row to make the over all stamp longer?
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Posted 09/18/2019   9:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
KGV Collector,

Spot on, just an occasional MISPERF.
I was trying to ascertain .. "how common are TALLER 'misperfed' stamps". In 'my collection' misperfs ratio is one in 500....other collection ratios may differ considerably to a point of being common in all values, thus throwing my ratios out the door.
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Posted 10/08/2019   5:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"IF" any collector is interested, same 'misperf' found in Aust' 1st w/m 4d Orange Kangaroo/map stamp.

Passing thought...did same worker unwittingly make these mistakes, from 1914 till retirement.?
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Posted 10/21/2019   06:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add steveb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think you're misunderstanding the mechanical technology in use at the time plus quality control standards differ and no computers to solve problems. Jumbo perfs due to a mechanical problem that didn't destroy the stamps are considered normal. Its still an intact design surrounded by perferrated whitespace. I don't know how many are out there but its common enough on early issues to be of little to no interest for extra value. Many like myself consider them ugly. This type of problem effects an entire row so like 1 in 20 stamps in the sheet? Also I dont recall ever seeing this in the middle of a sheet represented in a pair or block but I do recall seeing many times this having happened adjacent to an edge with an attached selvedge adjacent to the jumbo edge so I have no problem thinking the machines which are mechanically set for each stamp size would have a timing chain with one less notch on it than the expected number of perf rows that might cause a noise change to notify the operator the sheet is perfed.

There are also some issues which were printed on horizontal or vertical laid paper which when soaked after use results in a slight dimension change (3d green airmail, Australia 1930s issue) but this can be faked so be careful buying such an issue where price differences exist.
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Posted 10/23/2019   03:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
steveb.

Right behind your sentiments, had this collection of Roos/Georges for 44+ years.
Only now started putting some in Hagner rows.
Looked very 'untidy' with tall ones, separation/grouped together was necessary.
For some, if it's NOT in every collection, a worthy collectable.
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