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Is Any Cancel Of These A Precancel?

 
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Posted 09/16/2019   11:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stamperix to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello,

these stamps have interesting cancels, and they appear as if they could be precancels, but from what I know, they are probably not. But are there perhaps any among them that are (perhaps local) precancels?

Altoona PA (2 stamps - parcel roller cancel?)
Philadelphia PA (local precancel, but vertical?)
Northbrook ILL (roller cancel?)
Campello Station (interesting, machine cancel?)
Waldoboro Maine (interesting, but also a roller cancel?)

thank you.

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Posted 09/16/2019   3:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CL_Arctos to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nope, these are not precancels. You are correct :)
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Posted 09/16/2019   10:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Roller cancels from a device much like a small paint roller. These were generally used on packages, explaining their use on dollar values.
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Posted 09/17/2019   03:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you both. Only the two red Washington stamps need some knowledge for me.

Shouldn't the gap between the two "boxes" of the Philadelphia cancel be a hint for a local precancel, as a roller perhaps would have a vertical line there?

The Campello cancel is perhaps not a machine cancel, as the slogan/office is also repeated there (at the right the "Ca.." begins again). For a roller cancel this appears too much like "printed". So what is this called?

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Posted 02/28/2020   4:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add precanceler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Stamperix,
AS a long time PSS member and longer time collector, I am still learning precancels. I will say it appears to my eye you have 3 precancels, the 2 Altoona and the Vertical, reading up, Phily. The Altoona on the $1 Franklin I believe is a Type 404 should be a Perf 11 and carries about a $3 value. The other Altoona Also appears to be a 404 in purple ink, value unknown but nice find. Your Phily is also a precancel and could be one of about 9 different "L" numbers and only way to really know is measuring between the Bars, the length of the town and state. Value could be anywhere from 15c to $1.50.
One thing I had to learn about precancels early on, precancel fits on the stamp and does not roll off of it. Just a suggestion but quite often someone sells an older Town & Type Catalog and could be a great source of reference for you, look on eBay under Stamps/publications.
I sure hope this helps you even tho its "late"
Happy Collecting
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