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Posted 10/31/2019   8:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Dec to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi! Im new in the forum. I need some help about this stamp.
I fount this stamp in a lot. It seems perf 10 at bottom.
Maybe its a 557c?

Thanks for any help.

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Posted 10/31/2019   8:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Dec, and welcome to the forum. How did you arrive the perf 10 bottom ?

Peter
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Edited by Petert4522 - 10/31/2019 8:15 pm
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Posted 10/31/2019   9:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dec to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Peter! I measured it by perforation gauge and stamp analyzer software. Shows perf 11 at left top and right side, 10 at bottom.
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Posted 10/31/2019   9:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dec to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know well the US stamps. Just try to find where I can get more informations about it.
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Edited by Dec - 10/31/2019 9:17 pm
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Posted 10/31/2019   9:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JLLebbert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The perfs do appear to be 11x11x10x11. If you think the perfs are genuine, it is worth spending for a cert, even though the odds are still likely a bit long. Which, if the stamp is a genuine 557c, won't be cheap.
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Posted 10/31/2019   9:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I like your chances. Good luck!
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Posted 10/31/2019   9:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dec to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm just dont know how could I know the perforations is genuine or not.
I made a higher resolution scan. Which is the best place to cert a US stamp? I live in Europe so I dont know any US stamp experts. Thanks
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Posted 10/31/2019   9:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 11/01/2019   01:04 am  Show Profile Check cfrphoto's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add cfrphoto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is no point in sending the stamp to the PF, APS, PSE or PSAG until the bottom perforations are matched with flat plate and rotary perf 10. If either match, the perforations are unlikely to receive a clean cert. The perforation row in the closeup appears too regular to be genuine. The perf 10 pins added to the perf 11 row are believed to have been manually spaced over a span of about three stamps to fix a section of a defective perforation wheel. The perf 10 pins are not aligned with the perf 11 row and spacing and placement is noticeably irregular.
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Posted 11/01/2019   05:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add fatherkinds to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What do you mean , not genuine in other words,forged, or copy, of some sort please elaborate.. I have some similar on the lower end of the perf 10 s top or bottom ,also in regards to cost of certs I thought the general number for a genuine 557 c ranging in the cats at under 10 last I checked would estimate to be of the .01 -10,000 $33.00 ref. Pf society for the evaluation and cert. ? Can you be specific on cost factors. And by the looks of what I see does seem to fit the 10 perf top or bottom counting the whole preferations in a 2cm scale. Thank you for the pic and question.

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Posted 11/01/2019   05:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The perf 10 error has irregular perforation holes, as cfrphoto wrote above, so the hint to check the stamp to another (normal) perf 10 stamp is good, as they have regular (equally spaced) holes. If you have further questions about the fees I am sure the PF can give the best answers.
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Posted 11/01/2019   09:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dec to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I checked with a regular stamp. The perf seems regular to me.
Too good to be true. Than I think its dont wort to send to certify.
Thanks for all help
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Posted 11/01/2019   11:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Philazilla to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Send it for a cert to the Philatelic Foundation. On something like this, no matter how you check it, you will never really know unless you send it in. This is definitely worth the $50 it is going to cost you to ship the stamp and pay the certification fee.
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Posted 11/01/2019   1:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Willwood42 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just looked at the Siegel census of 557c and there certainly seem to be stamps with bottom perforations that are no more irregular than yours. I think the irregularity is in the holes themselves not the spacing. And lastly if not a 557c, what is it?

https://siegelauctions.com/display_...s.php?id=209
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Posted 11/01/2019   1:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JLLebbert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What Phil says is likely true. If the stamp is not genuine (very likely), you would probably be out around $50. On the other hand, if it were genuine, the cost would be a little over $500. But in that event you could undoubtedly sell the stamp for a bit more than the cert cost. If it were my money, the final choice would lie with cfrphoto's post. Since he sees little chance of it being genuine, I would save my $50. After all, he may very well have certified one of these himself at some point in the past.
But that's just me, the tightwad, speaking.
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Posted 11/01/2019   1:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bud to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looking at the other 557c's at Siegel, I'd say there is a better than even chance the stamp is a genuine 557c. If it were mine, I'd send it for a cert. Good luck, @Dec! Please let us know what happens.
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