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Two Swedish 1885 King Oscar 2 10 Ore Stamps?

 
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Posted 11/05/2019   3:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add DrSimon to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Dear community,

please can you have a look at these two versions on 1885 King Oscar 2 Stamps Sc. #39.

They seem very different to me - are they the same stamp at all?




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Sam
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Posted 11/05/2019   3:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Does this help?
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Posted 11/05/2019   4:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your two stamps are from the 1886 printings(Facit 45).Posthorn on the back.
There are two types of paper and 4 shades.
1)Plain white paper (Facit 45a,45b,45c) (your left stamp)Violet carmine,pale violet carmine, carmine.
2)yellowish paper (Facit 45d).(your right stamp)Printings on the yellowih paper are often blurry and the shade is a Pink Carmine that has a dirty look to it.
So technicaly they are not the same stampů..
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Posted 11/07/2019   07:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DrSimon to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much for the conclusive explanations!
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Posted 11/07/2019   10:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Willwood42 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My take on this is that the stamp on the left is either Scott 39, dull rose, issue date of 1885 or Scott 45, pink, issue date of 1886. And the stamp on the right is a totally different design(see Rod's post), Scott 58, issue date of 1891. The second stamp is one of a set of 10 stamps, with 9 different denominations.
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Posted 01/18/2020   9:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrita75 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am also trying to work through my oscars :) I love them.

I believe I have a Scott 39 maybe a 58. Of the 4 I feature (in the 10 ore) only the first has the posthorn the three remaining do not. I am just getting used to my Scott Specialized Catalogue so I could be missing something - to me the colors all look different.

Also sharing my Oscar Page - :)


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Posted 01/18/2020   11:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
to me the colors all look different.


First, study the design of the value numerals, see the odd man out with "10" ?

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Posted 01/19/2020   12:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrita75 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod - what do you mean by the odd man out with "10" - do you mean that last one of my 4 Oscars? definitely that one seems to be the odd one out - the head design is different - that ones seems like #58. the first three seem similar - with slight color difference - I believe #39 - I looked up Typo print but I am too inexperienced to identify. My Scott catalogue has it as follows.





When you say numerals of value, you do not mean these correct?



Thanks Rod as always!



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Posted 01/19/2020   12:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If the first has no posthorn, it's 39. The next two are 45. There shades of these. The last is 58. The numerals differ, and so does the rendition of the king's head. Carry on!
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Posted 01/19/2020   12:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrita75 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
45s! I totally missed that A7 on the catalogue (buried with the A5s) Geoff, you are all knowledgable on the Swedish stamps. Muchisimas Gracias.
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Posted 01/19/2020   01:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your'e doing fine
As Geoff has explained, the 1872 v the 1891

Tip: Next purchase for you, a cheap battery lit Magnifying Glass,
you get to see your stamps up close and personal.

A colleague and I were flyspecking Kangaroo stamps, and , at a loss for words, said "Pass me the submarine" aka magnifying glass.
It is now always referred to as the submarine.
( eBay circa $4)

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Posted 01/19/2020   09:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrita75 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank Rod. Yes I have an LED Magnifying glass - but the light went out. Sometimes with a vey heavy cancel I have a hard time even with the magnifying glass.

I also have just started using the Scott Catalog that I purchased - it is the 2000 version. With practice I will get better and better.
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Posted 01/19/2020   8:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mrita,
consider this, every query, every puzzle, every question, most of us have had, just like you, in our own journey.
That's what makes it a family.
To quote Buzz Lightyear : "To infinity, and beyond! ........."
Apologies for the gunky magnifier...(Printer toner)

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Posted 01/19/2020   9:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrita75 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I agree :) here are the rest of the lot in stock pages ready for scrutiny - wow the catalogue makes it much easier than Stampword, though I'm using both. To infinity and beyond indeed.



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