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Posted 11/08/2019   11:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add manosp to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This belongs to an old man collectors said that is unique and expensive ! after my search in the web I haven't found any similar items, has anyone any recommendations please ?





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Posted 11/08/2019   12:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 11/08/2019   12:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi manosp.

This is a postmark of the Turkish post office in Chania / Hania in Crete.

The French text reads "BUREAU TELEGRAPHIQUE ET POSTAL / HAGNE."
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Posted 11/08/2019   12:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add manosp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello perf12 and nigelc !

Yes indeed its from Chania not Bulgaria as perf12 mention.

Nigelc have you seen that before in any catalogue or auction ? I try to evaluate that but cant find any references !
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Posted 11/08/2019   1:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's listed in both Feenstra's Crete handbook and in the Foreign Post Offices book by Nicolas and Galinos.

Neither gives any information on dates of use.

Feenstra does give a price on piece of €400 but I'd be cautious about this.

Nicolas and Galinos do not give any prices for this postmark.

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Posted 11/08/2019   1:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add manosp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Nigelc ! Do you know where I can find Feenstra's book ?
When you says cautious what is all about ?
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Posted 11/08/2019   1:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In the examples for Bulgaria on entire documents the asking price is $1.500 - $5.500 .
A small piece like yours would be a fraction of that.
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Posted 11/08/2019   1:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The second edition (hardbound with a white cover) of Feenstra's Crete handbook was published by collectio in Athens.

I don't think it's still in print but I do recommend it strongly.

It's a very useful reference for many aspects of Cretan philately.

It's clear the postmark is scarce and collectable but how much would a collector pay for the postmark alone?

I've just checked the catalogue of collectio's auction #48 which featured Rienk Feenstra's own collection and was held in 2005.

This auction appears to have included a copy of this postmark on a reduced envelope, described as "the only known strike of this handstamp" (!) with a starting price of €300.

Unfortunately, I don't have to hand the prices realised from the sale so I don't know if this lot sold or if so for how much.

Good luck with this!
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Posted 11/08/2019   2:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add manosp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank You Nigelc !
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Posted 11/08/2019   2:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Manosp:You should put the word Ottomanat the begining of this threads title.
Otherwise everything we write about will be lost forever…
Some reading on the start of the Ottoman telegraph (page 16).
http://www.levantineheritage.com/pd...gul_Okan.pdf
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Posted 11/09/2019   3:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add manosp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Perf12, I think is written already , thanks for the link !
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