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Posted 11/12/2019   09:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add pendrak to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi Guys-

I am not a stamp collector but acquired a large box of stamps about 30 years ago. There are 20000 plus stamps in the box mostly divided by type in envelopes. My only reference guide at present is eBay. I dumped an envelope of 2 cent Washington stamps and one on top has a red line. I noticed the ones with red lines command a premium. I have included a pic of the stack of 2 cent stamps and a scan of the one with a red line. I have not gone through the rest. Also, I do not know how to date this one. Any info appreciated-

From what I can tell none of the stamps in the box date past the 1930s or so.

Thank you for your help-





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Posted 11/12/2019   10:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The "red line syndrome" is a scam - it is where the edge of the pane of stamps was

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Posted 11/12/2019   10:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Pendrak, welcome to the site. You can't base things on asking prices on eBay. As mentioned above the red line is referred to as a "cut line" and it is where the sheet of 400 stamps was cut into 4 panes of 100 stamps. To collectors these are less desirable than fully perforated stamps from the same sheet and sell for less.
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Posted 11/12/2019   10:13 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome,
Here is an article on 'red lines' and how they are made.
http://stampsmarter.com/learning/ID_RareLines.html
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Posted 11/12/2019   10:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pendrak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you. I guess it would not be worth my while to go through these since I don't know how to date them.
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Posted 11/12/2019   10:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This batch would still be a flyspeckers mecca

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Posted 11/12/2019   11:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sheetguy2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I noticed the ones with red lines command a premium.



pendrak....where did you notice that?? eBay??
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Posted 11/12/2019   11:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
"My only reference guide at present is eBay".



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Posted 11/12/2019   1:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StatesmanStamper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi pendrak,

Welcome. I would suggest using the identification sections of the Stamp Smarter site as an aide in determining more info on your stamps.

http://www.stampsmarter.com/1847usa...ntifier.html

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Posted 11/12/2019   5:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
eBay has an area "advanced" that gives the actual sold prices. Not the "pie in the sky"asking prices.
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Posted 11/12/2019   8:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pendrak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Fly Specking? I'm a coin collector that has just got into VAMs and die verities. Looks like fly specking is something similar for stamp collectors. Someone mentioned that this hoard could be a "flyspeckers mecca".

I dumped out three more envelopes. Here is a pic. Is this something a flyspecker would be interested in? Let me know.

I am a member of the coin forum. I opened a new account for stamps. I may have messed up. What do I need to do?

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Posted 11/12/2019   10:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Philazilla to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 3c Jefferson and 3c Washington are more recent stamps than the red Washington. I don't think a lot of "flyspeckers" are interested in those more recent issues. Although you have enough there to find the really well-centered ones - if you don't want to search for the perfect specimen, someone probably does. And it looks like the badly-centered ones may have already ben pruned from this stack.

What are you looking to do with these stamps? Sell them for as much money as possible? Start collecting and sell the ones you don't want?
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Petert4522,

I would have thought there's 'Less stamps with a line'... therefore slightly higher value ?.

My reason......fully perf'd stamps occupy the rest of each sheet.

Surprised by Stallzer comments above indicating the opposite.

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I would have thought there's 'Less stamps with a line'... therefore slightly higher value ?.

My reason......fully perf'd stamps occupy the rest of each sheet.

Surprised by Stallzer comments above indicating the opposite.


Collectors want the best centered, best looking stamps. The straight edges are more rare but have never been looked on as attractive.
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Posted 11/13/2019   07:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
While it is true the natural straight edge stamps are less per sheet collectors view the cut lines / natural straight edges as faults so therefore they sell at a fraction of the price as the fully perforated stamps.
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Posted 11/13/2019   10:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Germania to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I would have thought there's 'Less stamps with a line'... therefore slightly higher value ?.

My reason......fully perf'd stamps occupy the rest of each sheet.

Surprised by Stallzer comments above indicating the opposite.


Value is determined by two factors, rarity and demand. Stamps with a red line (or with a natural straight edge and no line) are rarer than fully perforated but the demand is much less, hence a lower value. It doesn't always make sense but that's how it is.
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