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Posted 11/14/2019   10:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am going to go out on a limb here,
The STATION Pmk stamp, I do not recognise as British.
I reckon it may be a stamp from Belgium, with an OSTENDE (STATION) Pmk

Lots of mail from Germany and the low countries, passed through Ostend during that period, onwards to London and regions.
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Posted 11/14/2019   10:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rod,

I think you've hit the nail on the head here!

The format is right for a Belgian postmark of the period.

I don't have an Ostend postmark but I have similar ones from Antwerp with ANVERS (STATION) and one with TOURNAI (STATION).



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It's great how a small group of stamps like this can lead us into all sorts of topics!

I agree it's probably a Belgian stamp but I can;t make it out.
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Edited by nigelc - 11/14/2019 10:58 am
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I don't make offers, just a personal thing, but if you list on eBay, I'll bid
You shall need 50 (genuine) posts to sell at auction here.
Good luck.

Still cannot make out that scarlet / red stamp, that's an enigma.........

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Posted 11/14/2019   10:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Solved
(Is there nothing we cannot do at SCF?)
Link sent to webmaster for confirmation.........

Stamp 10 Crown and S&CL = Shore and Coggins LONGTON Potteries
(Hallmark Stamp)
with Hijinx forged Pmk by others or Factory.



http://www.thepotteries.org/allpotters/917.htm
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Posted 11/14/2019   10:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
S&CL: I would lean toward something genuine based on my experience with US postal history. Specifically, I wonder if this is portion of a permit imprint with an adjacent "Paid 1d" portion cut off leaving just the stamp facsimile and a portion of postmark behind. Just thinking out loud.
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Posted 11/14/2019   10:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
All observations welcomed,
I would almost bet my house on it being the Potter's Hallmark,
we await confirmation from Mr. Steve Wicks.

The EC barred Pmk (East Central London) is a definite forgery , perhaps just an added mark from the factory.

The mutilated stationery suggests it originated from paperwork included in the sale of boxed fine china.

Japanese "Hallmark" (Product Verification) stamps from my collection.
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Posted 11/15/2019   12:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rod,

Unless I'm missing something, the last Japanese stamp is Scott 109, issued for Yoshihito's marriage.

Is it the cancel that I'm not understanding?

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Quote:
Is it the cancel that I'm not understanding?


Thanks Bobby...Senior moment
I'll get it out and place it in its correct position.
Sheesh.
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Response from Mr. Steve Birks, re Shore & Coggins


Steve Birks
3:30 PM (20 minutes ago)
Hello Rodney This looks like a postage stamp to me. I am fairly sure has nothing to do with the pottery manufacturer Shore & Coggins Ltd regards Steve

The search resumes,
I remain with the idea, it is a product verification label.
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Posted 11/16/2019   08:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rod,

I suspect it's a cut-out from a a piece of advertising, or from an invoice header or something similar.

My first thought was that it would be from an old-time stamp dealer but I do like your identification of Shore and Coggins.

I'm assuming this is not a label and is not stuck on the paper but rather printed with its simulated perforations and cancellation directly on the paper.
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Hi Nigel,
agree wholehearted with you.
I replied to Steve with my continued opinion with it being a "product verification" item, whether it be shore coggins, or other.
He has kindly offered to place it on his webpage, for broadcast.
We may never know, but is fun, chasing.

Weighing the facts as presented........
In a British QV stamp lot
Basic format of a Penny Black (letters in corners)
British Crown
S & C L in corners
Dummy East Central London Pmk
That's pretty heady evidence.


Steve Birks
Sat, Nov 16, 3:51 PM (12 hours ago)
to me

Hello Rodney
thanks for the email - likewise I will put the picture on the Shore & Coggins page - perhaps someone will have some definitive information about it
regards
Steve
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Last, but not least..........
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