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Wanted: Brusden White Australian Commonwealth Specialists' Catalogue Kangaroos Volume 2004 Edition

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Posted 12/10/2019   3:12 pm  Show Profile Check 64idgaf's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add 64idgaf to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Can anyone supply or point me towards one of these?

I'm after the Commonwealth period States' stamp listings.

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Posted 12/10/2019   4:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 2017 6th edition is available from Brusden White but I assume you knew that?
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Posted 12/10/2019   4:34 pm  Show Profile Check 64idgaf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 64idgaf to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, but it was only the edition pictured that has the States' stamps from 1901-1912 included.
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Posted 12/13/2019   04:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I borrowed this book on an interlibrary loan to get the New South Wales information.

Check with your librarian!
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Posted 12/13/2019   04:12 am  Show Profile Check 64idgaf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 64idgaf to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Bobby, I like to own them.

A Christmas task I have is to move my stamp room. When that is accomplished, photos will follow.
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Posted 01/15/2020   7:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A copy of this book is in the latest Phoenix auction. It's lot number 177.
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Posted 01/16/2020   4:06 pm  Show Profile Check 64idgaf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 64idgaf to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Bobby, I sourced one.
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Posted 01/16/2020   4:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good to know, I shall be bidding then.
Thanks Bobby.
Phew! 25% buyers commission (includes Paypal fee)
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Posted 01/17/2020   04:06 am  Show Profile Check 64idgaf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 64idgaf to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The States' listings are far more comprehensive than I thought they would be.

I'm pleased to have it.
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Posted 01/17/2020   05:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, this book is very useful. Only: what is the reason why it has not been updated such a long time? The only guess I have is that those specialised catalog perspective to the state is not that searched or needed today anymore by the collectors and their market. Have there been sales in the last 5 years for the "rarities" that only appear in this catalog? If so, why shouldn't there be any update? Actually, if there were not many changes to those chapters, why not just also adding them to the most recent catalog as well? This seems as if it was a chapter that was not really wanted by Australian stamp market (although I wish it was).

But as I am not in Australia and not an Australian stamp specialist I am glad to read more opinions on this - what do you think why there is no update, and is there really a market for theses specialised stamps?
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Posted 01/17/2020   06:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Yes, this book is very useful. Only: what is the reason why it has not been updated such a long time? The only guess I have is that those specialised catalog perspective to the state is not that searched or needed today anymore by the collectors and their market. Have there been sales in the last 5 years for the "rarities" that only appear in this catalog? If so, why shouldn't there be any update? Actually, if there were not many changes to those chapters, why not just also adding them to the most recent catalog as well? This seems as if it was a chapter that was not really wanted by Australian stamp market (although I wish it was).


That couldn't be further from the truth.
Australia boasts some of the most dedicated collectors on the planet.
Visit any auction and there are the intelligentsia studying the most minute of details of any stamps imaginable.

To quote one dealer
"Australia has THE best and most detailed stamp catalogues of any country on earth in my view."

Even the celebrated Brusden White, does not cover all the studies.

I have just purchased the study monograph of the KG5 Die ll
One stamp about 50 pages, and a plastic guage to determine about 12 angles of the "spur"
It's rather quite crazy, but fun.

Why BW does not re produce the 2004 is beyond me at this stage.
there are, as we see on this thread collectors hungry for the tome.



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Posted 01/17/2020   06:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rodney A Perry (rap)
has been a Philatelic trader since 1962. Rod established Rodney A Perry Auction Galleries in 1971 and sold that enterprise 30 years later. The Auction House was rebranded as Millennium Philatelic Auctions .

For ten years from 1992 Rod was proprietor of Brusden-White Publishing , publisher of The Australian Commonwealth Specialists' Catalogue, established 1926. During that decade of ownership, with the inimitable Geoff Kellow as Editor (which remains the situation), an ambitious programme to completely rewrite the catalogue was undertaken. By the time the rights to the catalogue were sold (to the consortium which bought the Auction House), the rewrite, embracing Australian Commonwealth stamp issues or their development from 1901 to 2001, was completed. The catalogue was awarded a Gold Medal at the International Exhibition ITALIA 98 .

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Not certain you buyers want this said:
The 2004 "Kangaroos" is a Classic, unlikely to be repeated any time soon.
Never before, and probably not for many years hence, has so much previously unpublished information been presented in a single handbook/catalogue.
The 1901-12 Federation Period of Australia was never before done justice to so rightly.
The inclusion of that era in a "Kangaroos" volume was a masterstroke. Mandatory introduction to the uninitiated.
As a consequence, there are more enthusiasts for 1901-12 than ever before.
The 2013 edition, fine as it is, laments the exclusion of that section.
Do we now have anything other than just more octane poured upon the world's most over-hyped 20th century stamp series?
By "over-hyped" I refer to mint and used; covers remain "under-hyped", in the extreme.
Rod
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Posted 01/17/2020   1:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tasnaki to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is a great shame that there have been no updates on this period from BW, there is certainly a great deal of interest in collecting states stamps from this era.

There are a number of information sources for some of the issues around on the internet, some good and some not so good!

One example is the Tasmanian Pictorial series, the Tasmanian Philatelic Society website has a number of detailed guides for some of the lower values, these are available as PDF files and are free. Not catalogues with values but they do cover a wide range of plating flaws.

Perhaps a separate thread could be started to list any resources available for this period?

Tasnaki
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Posted 01/17/2020   3:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So I purchase the book online, the vendor takes my money,
I get an email, thanks for your order etc etc.

Then I get an email this morning,
"we are checking with our supplier who has low stock, and will inform you if the item is available, we are trying to secure you a copy"

How can businesses sell items they don't have?
Does anyone deal straight up and down anymore?
Sheesh.
Aussies deal with "Booktopia" at your peril.
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Posted 01/17/2020   4:45 pm  Show Profile Check KGV Collector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The update of any catalogue costs.

The cost to update and the risk of not earning enough to cover costs over the 1st 2 years must be frightening to any newly updated catalogue team.

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Posted 01/17/2020   5:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have run into the "not in stock" situation with catalogs/reference books on several occasions. I hated to see Werner Zielniwicz (Germany) retire. If he didn't have a catalog/book in stock, he could generally find a copy for you.

In regard to specialized reference books, sometimes you have to take what you can get...even if you are patient.
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