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French Indochine Sc#59

 
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Posted 12/17/2019   02:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add cupram to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
It is a stamp of French Indochina Sc # 59.
Overprinting is a variety (2mm between 0 and 5 instead of 1.5mm)
If you have this stamp (normal overprint) please send me a scan or possibly make an exchange.
I want this to identify the originality of the overprint.
I did not find anything on the net about the existence of the forgery of this stamp
Thanks

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Posted 12/17/2019   03:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Johan Buvelot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Meassurement should be between the narrowest parts of the overprint, so a bit lower than you are measuring right now.

If you use a ruler, make sure it is level(perfectly horizontal)
On the picture it is at a slight angle, when it comes down to millimeters this can have a big effect.

I personally think it is a normal 1,5 mm example.
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Posted 12/17/2019   05:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Narrow one on the left:

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Posted 12/17/2019   06:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Johan Buvelot and perf12.
I think that measurement is good.
I have a stamp pair with normal and variety overprint.See the difference:

Perf12, your stamp is a variety too,I think.
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Posted 12/17/2019   08:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I also find it interesting in the last scan that the lettering in SULTANATE D'ANJOUAN in the left stamp is not only angled but has distorted letters, too. So the plate for that was more likely made by photographic transfer rather than composed of individual clichés.
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Posted 12/17/2019   08:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vayolene to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a similar pair from Grande Comore
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Posted 12/17/2019   09:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And another pair of Moheli:



Thank you "hy-brasil",good observation,I don't saw it.
Bonjour "vayolene"si je ne fais pas une faute,je crois que vous m'avez aide aussi sur MDT.
But what about of French Indochine stamp?
The paper of mine is gray-white and the overprint is thicker that "perf12"stamp.
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Posted 12/17/2019   11:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In your Anjouan pair;it looks like the right stamp is 1.75 mm spacing.
The spacings that exist are thus: 1.25mm,1.75mm & 2.00mm.The 1.75 is the rarest.The différences in spacing are due to an erroir in the "space" type sets placed between the 1 & 0, or 0 & 5.These can be identified and have sheet positions.
The main varieties of these surcharges is the top of the "5" (in red) with a thick top;and the numeral "1" in the 10 (in black) with
a small black smear obove the numeral "1".This was due to a spacing type set that was loosend during printing and touched the paper.
It is a scarce variety found mostly on the Anjouan 40c & Guadeloupe 40c,but may exist for other colonies.
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