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Posted 12/28/2019   1:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Mrita75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello,

I only have a few Irish stamps. I know this is a definitive sword of light. The color is throwing me off a bit. Can anyone confirm this is a 1940 SG118?

Thank you.

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Posted 12/28/2019   2:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 12/28/2019   3:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrita75 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you. ok so according to the link - it looks like the 1940 sc#113 but I guess it could also be the #72 (though I doubt it) - comes down to the watermark - which I still am too afraid to try the fluid to check for it. I looked in the light, under my led lighted microscope. where exactly would these watermarks be- dead center in the back? sigh, thanks - I am still learning - please be gentle.

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Posted 12/28/2019   4:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add waddsbadds to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The second picture of the front, the one with the tongs, looks closer to the true color, a deep violet,and from the pictures of the back, it looks like it has the later watermark, a lower case letter "e" which, viewed from the back of the stamp appears backwards, making it Scott 113, and being that watermark, (Scott watermark 262) it's a multiple and can appear almost anywhere on the stamp, and may even have all or parts of several watermarks per stamp
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Posted 12/28/2019   4:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrita75 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Got it. Ok. I guess I need to keep practicing or just buy the liquid. Thank you for taking the time with me.
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Posted 12/28/2019   4:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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dead center in the back?

Depending on the issue, some are easy to see and middlish, others can be on a perf tip!
Have yet to drip on the lighter fluid? It will be over in seconds. Fear not, some of your older stamps were dipped in much worse. At one time the preferred fluid was carbon tetrachloride.
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Posted 12/28/2019   7:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wannahocalugie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Distilled water it is.
Mrita75: I was scared to use the Ronsonol too. Believe it or not it is just as fun as the stamps themselves. Some of those watermarks are tricky as all get out. Buy it, you won't regret it.
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Posted 12/29/2019   11:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGVIStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Before you break out the fluids, try looking at your stamps against black paper. It works pretty well and doesn't involve any health risks.

You can see the two sets of these stamps by looking at my collection using this link. I also have the watermarks identified so you know what to look for.
http://www.kgvistamps.com/PageScans.../Ireland.htm
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Posted 12/29/2019   12:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrita75 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks KGVI. Hoping your links might also help me with two Kenya, Uganda Tanganyika queen stamps that are two different colors.
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Posted 12/29/2019   12:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EMaxim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lighter fluid is flammable and has terrible fumes. I live in the north, where windows remain shut most of the year, so I use Clarity for watermark detection. It has no fumes and isn't flammable. Yes, it's more expensive, but so is brain damage. And of course I'm not checking every stamp for watermarks, so a bottle of Clarity lasts me quite a while.
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The shade is not always helpful. The 1923 stamp comes from a set that has many shades. Hibernian uses claret to describe it. This also is the case for the stamp from the later watermark "e" issue. From the picture, it looks like it has the latter watermark.

The "e" watermark also exists printed in photogravure instead of typography. This was printed on chalk-surfaced paper in 1966. It has a smaller size and has a brighter colour Hibernian describes as bright violet.
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