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Posted 01/18/2020   4:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Brodes to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi, I have a One Pound Jimmy stamp with 2 sideways watermark. Is it a rare stamp?


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Posted 01/18/2020   4:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamp you posted doesn't seem to match your question. A front scan and a god back scan would be needed for further comments.
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Posted 01/18/2020   4:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Brodes to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oh. Is it an Aboriginal face? Sorry. Not good with technology I'm afraid.
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Posted 01/18/2020   5:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'll do some research,
Suggestion: "One pound Jimmy" is derogatory.
Times have changed,
Perhaps your thread title changed to "Aboriginal" I think this is the preferred term. Let's hope we can begin to change our conversation, at least on SCF.

The gentleman pictured is Mr. Gwoya Jungarai.

Back soon..........
Sideways Wmk is normal, Inverted Wmk is scarce ( 9 copies known ?)
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Posted 01/18/2020   5:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The design for the 8'/2d and 2/6 values was prepared by Frank
D. Manley and was based on a photograph by Roy Dunstan.
The aborigine featured was a Central Australian native known
as "One Pound Jimmy" and was so named because when asked
how much he charged to perform a task, he invariabfy
answered "One pound, Boss." His tribal name was Gwoya
Jungarai, and he died on March 28, 1965, while on walkabout
with his relatives on Narweitooma cattle station, 120 miles
west of Alice Springs. His exact age was not known, but he
was over 70 when he died. The 2/6 is in larger format than the
8'/2d.
Supplies of the 2/6 Bird (1964) ran out just before Christmas
1965 and as the photogravure press was in constant use
preparing the new decimal currency definitives, an emergency
printing of two months' supply (800,000) of the 2/6 Aborigine
was prepared (No. 272a|. The faulty and much retouched
electros for the unwatermarked issues had been destroyed and
two earlier electros, last used in 1952, but still in stock had to
be used. These showed the Authority imprint as used for the
watermarked version and as this was overlooked the imprint
now appears on unwatermarked paper. The sepia colour used is
distinctly different from the colour of the previous
unwatermarked issues (No. 272). These issues first appeared
about mid-October, 1965, and came into general use in
December. Furthermore, the 1965 printing was on white paper,
whereas the earlier unwatermarked issue was on toned paper.


[edit] Stereotypes of indigenous Australians
Walkabout's early to mid-century stance on depiction of
Indigenous Australians was generally conservative, romantic
and stereotyped, a reflection of the then prevailing national
attitudes. An instance was Roy Dunstan's full-length portrait
entitled "Jimmy" of 1935, standing heroically with a spear and
gazing to the distance. 'Jimmy' was Gwoya Jungarai, a Walbiri
man, but when his image, cropped to head and shoulders,
appeared on the 1950 Australian stamp it was captioned
'Aborigine'. Though belatedly named in an editorial essay, the
deprecating moniker 'One Pound Jimmy' stuck.
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Posted 01/18/2020   5:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Brodes to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, my apologies. I looked it up and just went by the name that was mentioned online. No offence intended.
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Posted 01/18/2020   5:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
No offence intended.

None taken Brodes.
We are all learning.
Welcome to Philately.
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Posted 01/18/2020   6:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jkelley01938 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Anything for a pound"? Reminds me of Larry and the Darryl's "Anything for a buck".

Jack Kelley
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Posted 02/21/2020   12:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob041256 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Brodes

The stamp depicted a portrait of Gwoya Djungurrayi, also known as 'One Pound Jimmy.' I still call the stamp the 'One Pound Jimmy', as do the majority of collectors, so you aren't out of place by referring to the stamp as the 'One Pound Jimmy'.

The sideways watermark is extremely rare and is catalogued at MUH $5,750; MLH $4,500 and Used $1,500.

It's best to have it certified.

Rob
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Posted 02/21/2020   01:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Aussie Al to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think they are all sideways watermark (except the emergency printing no watermark) & depends on the direction of the watermark that makes them rare .
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Posted 02/21/2020   01:49 am  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The sideways watermark is normal for this stamp, showing the 'crown over CofA' with the crown to the right of CofA as seen from the back of the stamp.

The normal one looks like this from the back of the stamp:




The rare stamp is sideways inverted, with the crown showing to the left of CofA as seen from the back of the stamp.

This 'mock-up' (constructed from one of the stamps above) gives a rough idea of what would be seen from the back of the rare sideways inverted watermark stamp:

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