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Posted 02/11/2020   09:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Itsjustme7711 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I've found myself in a very interesting, fortunate, and scary situation. A friend of mine passed a year ago and I'm helping the family with the selling of the very fine worldwide collection (postal, revenues, etc). I've been collecting 30 years myself and it's the best I've ever seen by miles. Who do the members of the community recommend and why? How do you get the best price? Any other pointers appreciated. Will need someone with ample cash resources available. Thanks!
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Posted 02/11/2020   09:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Please can you be a bit more specific or maybe show pictures

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Posted 02/11/2020   10:00 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed with Peter, please post 10-12 representative images of the collection so the folks here will be able to point you in the right direction. Without images, we would be throwing darts in the dark.
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Posted 02/11/2020   10:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
First you need to do a inventory , start with talking to the family and wife about how he got his stamps . Find out what his annual spending was for stamps.Ask for invoices or checkbook .
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Posted 02/11/2020   10:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And certs, if any.
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Posted 02/12/2020   08:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wkusau to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You could see if he had stamp specific insurance and any inventory with it.
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Posted 02/12/2020   12:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamps101 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It will also depend on the focus of the material as to where best to offload. Is it rare items that may do better at auction and if so, is there a country focus that would be best with a specific house? Is it very nice mid-level stuff that a dealer may buy as a bulk lot? Was the owner part of a local club who may have interest?

I would not rush the sale at all if it's decent stuff. Obtain more info and contact places. See who shows interest and realized price lists for similar material, etc etc.
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Posted 02/19/2020   07:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Itsjustme7711 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for the delay and thanks for the interest. Heres a few choice photos that show breadth and depth. The collection is very large. Thoughts?







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Posted 02/19/2020   09:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Germania to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You're showing some incredible material, if it's genuine. Italian states have been heavily forged as well as the China 8f monkey. The USA material looks good overall. If genuine it should go to auction.
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Posted 02/19/2020   1:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Itsjustme7711 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, the material is genuine and is real. It is the combined strength of 2 collectors over the last 80 years. And, theres far more excellent contents than this. I've dubbed it, "The Holy Grail." If there was any way possible, I'd have bought it myself.
The family wishes to remain anonymous and doesnt want to go through an auction process or any sort of a long term sale scenario. I have brought someone highly reputable to view them this week. This buyer is prepared to make an offer after viewing photos I shared with them. I just wanted to see if the forum might suggest or comment on them blindly. Or, just in case the offer is too low, offer a suggestion for another buyer. Thanks for the feedback!
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Posted 02/19/2020   1:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Chipshot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For what is worth, I took my grandfather's collection in an album to NYC for a dealers offer. My Aunt had an inventory and had updated it with the then current market (Scott's) values. That dealer offered about 25% of that estimated value on the spot. If you have the time and interest it might help you get a range on what to expect. I think the market is still in full swing but that today it is more likely you would be fortunate to get 15 - 20 % of that catalog value from a dealer. Thank you for posting the images and good luck with the disposition.
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Posted 02/20/2020   1:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Itsjustme7711 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just to level set... I misspoke. The monkeys are forgeries, albeit good ones.
Again, I welcome any referrals. Thanks!
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Posted 02/20/2020   3:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cjpalermo1964 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The monkeys are forgeries, albeit good ones.


Hypothesis: The presence of any forgery in the collection will downwardly bias a dealer's total valuation, because the dealer must presume that other "album weeds" are present; therefore, the monkeys (and all other known foregeries) should be left out completely when contacting a dealer for an offer, and sold separately. What do others think of this hypo?
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Posted 02/20/2020   4:03 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just like weeds in the back yard, album weeds are also found growing together.

Once I find fake or forgeries in anything that I buy or look at; I assume that any other high values materials in the same collection are too (at the very least highly suspect).
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Posted 02/20/2020   4:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Fantasy Collection" It happened to me.
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Posted 02/20/2020   4:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are more than a few "weeds". I will wager that the 8XU3 is not real.

I am going to be contrary here and offer the opinion that this is more of a typical Rasdale accumulation lot. Lots of damaged and off centered medium value stamps sprinkled with a few damaged high values and with a healthy dose of just plain old fakes sprinkled in. With all due respect nobody needs to "have lots of cash on hand" for this one.
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