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Another Scott 5 On Cover Is Discovered

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Posted 02/12/2020   7:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rogdcam to your friends list Get a Link to this Message




Being auctioned in the upcoming Dutch Country sale (Lot 12):

5 Tied to 1852 F/L by faint cds cancel per 2019 PSE Cert, stamp appears undamaged w/ large margins, to in at top, large bottom margin showing full scrolls & top portion of adjoining stamp that shows break in the top line. Drop rate F/L with vertical file folds clear of stamp, overall a desirable cover. This F/L is from an estate find & is new to the market. It is not included in the Wagshall/Siegel census. Estimated fewer than (25) covers survive. Only one position (7R1E) of the (1000) possible positions from the plates used to print imperforate stamps is Type 1, this is why Scott #5 is so rare. Making it even rarer is its apparent undamaged condition!

https://stampauctionnetwork.com/ts/ts3271.cfm#3
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Posted 02/12/2020   7:19 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Undamaged?
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Posted 02/13/2020   09:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, the undamaged claim is specious, since it has been affected by the fold across the top. A minor issue affecting a major new find.
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Posted 02/13/2020   10:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
the description says "appears undamaged" which I would interpret as "damaged" but if you look at the stamp quickly in low light without your glasses you might not see the damage
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Posted 02/13/2020   11:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well that's neat. I hope they post a better scan of the stamp itself, if they post the sale on their website, eventually.
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Posted 02/13/2020   4:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Making it even rarer is its apparent undamaged condition!


I do believe they maintain there is no damage. I suppose we need to define "undamaged"? I also find it odd that such a specialized item like this is being brought to the market for the first time.

It's clearly written on the cover (who wrote it is another question) and one would believe that with such a specialized item you'd think at some point they would have chatted with one of the major players in the 1 Franklin circle.
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Posted 02/13/2020   4:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's really an unattractive cover; both the stamp and the cover have lived a somewhat difficult life. The only reason anyone cares is because it's a #5. There is a reason that the opening is only 11% of cat.
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Posted 02/13/2020   5:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is it an optical illusion, or does the tail of the "J" lie beneath the stamp at the base, and on it on the right-hand side?

That's a murky tie for $10,000!
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Posted 02/13/2020   6:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It was addressed before the stamp was applied. A common occurrence I would think.
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Posted 02/13/2020   6:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Indeed, but the end of the "J"'s tail appears to be on the stamp itself, rather than under it.
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Posted 02/13/2020   8:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamp is on thin paper.
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Posted 02/13/2020   9:22 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Optical illusion. It isn't like I haven't tried to find one but the 1c stamp is not known to have been printed on thin paper like the 3c and 12c stamp was.
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Posted 02/13/2020   10:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The tail of the J is under the stamp. What looks like a bit of the tip in the right margin of the stamp is shown in zoom view to be a coincidentally-located bit of discoloration on the stamp.
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Posted 02/14/2020   01:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting - thank you.
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Posted 02/14/2020   11:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is a hole under Ben's eye. So much for undamaged.
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