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Canada Scott/Unitrade # 196i New Variety Stamp Listing

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Posted 03/09/2020   07:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jogil to your friends list Get a Link to this Message



2 cents Canada Medallion stamp dry printed variety.


3 cents Canada Medallion stamp unlisted dry printed variety.
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Posted 03/11/2020   1:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Your 3 cents Canada Medallion stamp unlisted dry printed variety...Is it a DEI I..??

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Posted 03/11/2020   5:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wert: Yes, it is a Scott/Unitrade 197 with Die I stamp and it is found with printing plates 1 and 2 only. The Scott/Unitrade 196i is found with printing plates 1 and 2 only.
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Posted 08/07/2020   08:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the first sale of Canada Scott Unitrade # 196i that was noted since this variety was just recently listed:

https://www.brixtonchrome.com/colle...t29-august-5




Scott Unitrade 196i (left), Scott Unitrade 196 (right)
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Posted 08/07/2020   09:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice..So I guess we can not determine whether a USED 196 is actually a 196i..

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It is flat gum type (embossed/debossed) from dry pregummed paper (without the Stickney rotary press wet printing vertical gum streak lines). The horizontal gum breaker lines were applied by the web-fed wheel and bar perforator and not the printing press.
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Posted 08/07/2020   2:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Can used Scott 196i be identified by a strong embossed impression as per Unitrade...??

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Yes, but to be on the safe side it should have no horizontal gum breakers showing. Most 196i have traces of gum breakers while some do not. Out of the three 196i blocks of four stamps shown above, the third block down does not have gum breakers on the stamps. However, the stamp block selvage margin does have the gum breaker lines. If one looks at some copies of 195d, one can find faint traces of horizontal gum breaker lines on the gum when tilting the stamps at an angle. The gum breaker bars were gradually reduced and removed over time during the perforating of stamps with dry gum because they were found to be unnecessary. Gum breakers were needed for wet printed stamps to help reduce curling. For Stickney rotary press printings, small vertical line streaked gum is an indication of wet printing.
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Posted 10/21/2020   09:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is another Canada 196i that sold online recently at https://www.brixtonchrome.com/produ...ary-printing


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Posted 10/21/2020   10:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Two wet printed stamps on the top: 195 and 196
Two dry printed stamps on the bottom: 199 and 196i


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Posted 10/21/2020   10:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Now you got me interested....We need a write up for all collectors to benefit from.

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Posted 05/22/2021   10:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a dealer's listing for this stamp variety: https://www.arpinphilately.com/itm/...rge-v-2-1932
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I'm hoping I have both of these two (196 & 196i) photo's below?
Also is there a difference in the colour?
One of mine seems to be a slight red brown (dry print) and the other is a dark black brown (wet Print).

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Posted 05/30/2021   2:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Brad905 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Bill,

It would seem to me, based on your images above, that both stamps are 196, and not 196i.

The tell-tale difference between the two is that on the dry rotary press printings, when viewed from the back, the image appears to be embossed. I am just not seeing that on your two examples, although you do have to have just the right angle when photographing it. Below, you can see an example of 196i that I recently purchased at auction for CAD 45.00.





If you look at the below topic, you will see many photographs of the 1-Cent (195) which was printed using both methods. I think the plate blocks make it easy to see the difference between the two.

http://goscf.com/t/51672&whichpage=...95,medallion

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Posted 05/31/2021   07:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is even getting harder to find mint copies of Canada 195d as only a few mint copies are available from brixtonchrome, hipstamp, delcampe, etc.
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They sell quickly - I had 3 blocks of 195d for sale earlier this month on Hip, and they all sold in a couple days.
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