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Posted 01/10/2022   11:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi George,

Ahhhh, did not see 33! :)

In fact there are three catalogue and conversion list exist for each Number. That is why I always use study group reference when a PF is not in Michel Special.

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Posted 01/10/2022   12:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
IMO It is a little bit awkward that Michel doesn't include/reference their catalog #s in the MICHEL-Handbuch-Katalog PFENNIGE.
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Posted 01/10/2022   1:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi bookbndrbob,

I think because it is not thruly a Michel work. It is the work of three co-authors. I think...

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Posted 01/10/2022   4:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi hornet. I am sure you are correct. The authors and study group are listed and credited in the handbook's preface.

Still, I think an appendix or cross-reference would be an improvement.
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Posted 01/15/2022   10:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Found this one today. It is not listed by Michel, but is listed and illustrated in Schantl's BRD and Berlin PlattenFehler Catalog. It is Berlin Mi #269 from the 1965 Brothers Grimm semi-postal set. Catalog says, "additional black line under the tail in the blue, field 23, form number1, part of the print run."


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Posted 01/16/2022   12:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi bookbndrbob,
Nice find.
In Michel specialized 2019 is referred to as 269 I,no value yet.
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Posted 01/16/2022   06:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting, no value
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Posted 01/16/2022   09:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

Same flaw exist on BRD Nr.488, 488 f 23 or 488 I, same position and also FN 1.

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Posted 01/16/2022   10:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the update guys!
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Posted 01/18/2022   10:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

Finnaly got my pair of position 69. AB-Mi.Nr.926b and 927a, partial.

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Posted 01/19/2022   04:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi hornet,
Thanks for the pictures (I'm completing my archive)
A question for "a" color (???) for 927.
In the MIchel specialized 2019,for 927 is mentioned only one color : "dunkelorangegelb bis dunkelgelborange
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Posted 01/19/2022   08:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi cupram,

Yes you are right. Only one color. So one color known for this Nr. and all PF known so far are on this color. By default the color is a. So in Albrecht's Catalogue you'll see color a for Nr. in single color. Stamps with multiple colors, you will find some PF only on a particular color.

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Posted 01/25/2022   12:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Germany 1945, Allied Occupation, Soviet Zone-West Saxony, Michel No.123X, perforation L10 3/4 with plate flaw I-indentation in letter T- in field 14, 19, 64 and 69.



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Posted 01/25/2022   5:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice one cupram1

Here is an oldie. It is the 2 1/2 groschen surcharge issue of 1874, Mi #29 PF I. Michel says "1 of '1/2' in surcharge shifted left, position 114, position 141."

The Klein, Hesselbarth, and Sommer Plate Flaws of the Breast Shield Stamps handbook goes into greater detail and illustrates two types of the plate flaw. The first (sheet position 114) is a shift of .2 mm to the left. The handbook refers to this as "1a". Note also that this stamp appears to be a "klein" (short) variety. I am skeptical about this.



The handbook shows the position 141 plate flaw to be a more severe shift of the "1" to the left. My measurement indicates that this second stamp is a "1b", .9mm from the large "2".

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Posted 01/26/2022   05:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi bookbndrbob,
I asked in a previous thread (I can't find it) how these measurements are made.
1 displaced 0.2 mm to the left-what is the reference axis? the axis of symmetry of the bar between 1 and 2? or the axis of symmetry of 2?
I'm still unclear how to measure
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