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Posted 01/16/2021   11:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good ones cupric and hornet! Hornet, I am assuming you use a Thomas Schantl catalog in your searching. Mine is the BRD/Berlin 5th edition, which I have put into a nice hardcover binding.

The one I showed is on a clipping found in some cheap Germany kiloware. Usually, I soak them off, but this has a nice, clear, period postmark. The Schantl catalog also shows a plate flaw for the dark red "science and technology" stamp on the clipping...but not the particular stamp on the clipping. It is Mi #442 field 47, part of the print run...red streak in the gear.


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Posted 01/16/2021   12:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And, here is an earlier Federal Republic of Germany plate flaw as listed in the Thomas Schantl Plattenfehler-katalog BRD/Berlin fifth edition. This one is Michel #112, field 11 which occurred on a part of the print run.

The catalog lists it a 1000 DM. A bit much, no?


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Posted 01/16/2021   12:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi bookbndrbob,

Yes Schantl. Nr.112 comes with two flaws on position 11. A and B (both partial). Yours is B. A is PF III. For the Cat Value it is close... Euro 300.00.

Forgot the Nr.442, Schantl 442 f 47 partial

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Posted 01/16/2021   2:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

This is a plate flaw I : to the right of B, the second leaf is blue instead of green.
Mi#1508I from March 12,1991 stamp "Plants in Rennsteiggarten,Oberdorf" Fields 26, 28, 30, 34 and 40 on part of prints run.





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Here is a more recent one, from the euro era. This is the 75th anniversary of the Blue Ribbon voyage of the passenger ship Bremen. It is Michel #2417 PF I., red spot on the second "E" of "BREMEN", part of the print run. For me, this is a tough one to find. Out of many hundreds, I have only found this one.




So many of these stamps were printed (625.6 million) that you can also find printing freaks/irregularities on them. This is my best one, with the tops of the red letters being affected.


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Posted 01/17/2021   05:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think I've posted this stamp before, but I think the right place is in this topic.
This is plate flaw II : white spot on the neck of the shooter in front . Mi#897II from July 1,1944 stamp "Tyrolean country shooting,Innsbruck".Field 33 on part of prints run.




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Posted 01/18/2021   04:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Johan Buvelot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A few from Provinz Sachsen you can use as a visual aid.

Plate flaw 87 I Dot besides the 4.



Plate flaw 87 III dot left of the window and 87 IV missing lines in bottom of the 6.




Plate flaw 87 V broken line in hammer. 87 VI big dot besides scaffolding.




Given time I will post a few from the 88 and 89 stamp.
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Posted 01/18/2021   06:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Johan Buvelot.
I have stamps from Alliance Occup.I will verify.
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Here is another one from 2004. This is Michel #2387 PF I. It is a black streak on the "L" of "Liebe". It occurs on field 5 for part of the print run.


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Posted 01/19/2021   11:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Johan Buvelot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Plate flaws Sachsen number 88.

Plate flaw 88 III, A in BAU broken. Can be difficult to find because it is small







Plate flaw 88 VIII, little line on the upper left of the N of Provinz. (The line through the S appears to be a wood fiber, still looking into that one).







And going back to the Sachsen 87, a stamp with the second line in the 6 missing(not catalogued by Michel).





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Posted 01/19/2021   3:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is the February 13, 2003 Greetings stamp, water-activated gum stamp. Plate flaw is a blue spot in the petiole/leaf stalk. It is Michel #2317 PF I.


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Posted 01/20/2021   06:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Johan Buvelot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To complete the group Plate flaws that I can show, Sachsen 89

89 I. Dot on the barrel, easy to see.




89VI. S and A in Sachsen connected. The stamp can also have a purple dot at the top right of the square of the flying wheel(Shown). But most often not.





Plate flaw 89 VIII diagonal beam under 8 broken.
Distortion to the picture happened when I bumped into the scanner




Often seen but not listed as a plate flaw, the broken line on the Locomotive



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Posted 01/20/2021   10:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for posting with the nice scans, Johan!
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Posted 01/20/2021   4:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Johan Buvelot and bookbndrbob.
I did not find the varieties in the stamps from Saschen Province, but for the future I have a visual aid.
I found 2 stamps (I didn't check in Michel if they are registered)









Bookbndrbob- I recently bought a few hundred Federal Germany stamps from 1970-2005 and I hope to find varieties and I will post them for your confirmation
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Posted 01/21/2021   1:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi cupram. Yes, and I have one I'll post in the future which I hope someone can confirm. Michel does not illustrate it and the description is so vague that it is not useful.

Here is a modern one that Michel does illustrate. It is the January 13, 2000 issue for the 1200th anniversary of the Aachen Cathedral. It is Michel #2088 PF I, red spot on Charlemagne's temple. It occurs on field 8, part of the print run.


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