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Posted 02/04/2021   1:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is one on the 40 pf value of the REICHSPOST series. It is Michel 60 PF IV "lower part of the 'O' in REICHSPOST cut off."



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Posted 02/04/2021   2:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

That is a nice copy. black plate of Nr.58-62 are not all known. Even the color plate. they are interesting and fun to search for!

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Posted 02/04/2021   3:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rich60 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Folks
A few more items from my collection

Mi# 575I 1585 instead of 1685



Mi# 246I c instead of e in "Reich"


Mis-perfs


Mi# 922 Plate flaws - (left) broken frame above "1" - (right) PFFNNIG


Mi# 36 I DD Double overprint


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Posted 02/04/2021   4:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rich60,

Nice your Nr.575 I

For the Allied Control serie I, these are post war printing and not in ideal condition. You will see lot of printing accident and foreign object. Here the PLF I do like the most on both 15 Pfg Nr.921-922 found on position 66. Curved vertical line touching the oval.

Also here an example of bottom sheet (inflation period Nr.244)

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Posted 02/04/2021   5:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks hornet!

I was going to raise the issue that the term "plate flaw" has a very specific meaning in philately which is different from printing freaks and one-time errors. A plate flaw occurs at a specific cliche/place on the printing sheet and can occur on a complete print run, or on a part of a print run for a particular stamp. Many German stamps have been studied extensively, and Michel relies on both those studies and the BPP expertizers for its plate flaw listings. Michel references numbers used in studies and gives some other details, when known.

Here are two constant varieties/plate flaws on the 10 pf value from the 1946 Control Council issue. 918 PF I is a white streak between the 'C' and 'H' of DEUTSCHE. It occurs at field 56 for a part of the printing.

918 PF II is damaged upper left corner of the cliche at field 96, part of the print run.



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Posted 02/04/2021   5:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi bookbndrbob,

Yes totaly.

For your PF I, position 56, only in color a, HAN 4115-47.2, 4131-47.4 and 4149-47.4

PF II, also only on color a, HAN 4103-47.1, 4115-47.1, 4131-47.3 and 4149-47.3

Sometimes same position, different printing, (Type of printing or order). Here an example of position 93 B (P of POST) on plate printing (two HAN) also only on color a. The 93 A is on roller printing and in color b. (defect on bottom frame at right of POST)

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Posted 02/04/2021   6:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again hornet. I'll store the information/notations with the stamps. I have an album for this series.
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Posted 02/04/2021   8:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi bookbndrbob,

The Alliierter Kontrollrat 1946-48 are one of my favorite.

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Posted 02/05/2021   1:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the only plate flaw from this series which I have on cover....of which I am aware. It is the damaged lower right corner on the 8 pf value, Michel 817 PF I.


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Posted 02/05/2021   3:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rich60 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
HI Everyone
Today's flavor is SBZ. Complete Berlin-Brandenburg set with Inverted SBZ overprint.



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Posted 02/05/2021   4:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi bookbndrbob,

Congrats, Nr.917 I, color a only, on roller printing position 55, on four type of sheet. On two type of sheet it is in scarce combination with position 51.

Your cover is a philatelic one but nice and on cover 80.00 Euros

Here PF I and position 51.

Hi Rich60, beautiful selection.

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Found a card with stamps, that helps explain one of the more confusing plate flaws of the German Empire. The 278 IV triangle in bottom of the 0.

The actual flaw is on the stamp on the right. The one on the left is smaller, but is often offered as the 278IV. You can find them on offer on ebay(even graded!!). Stamps shown are CTO.



On the same card a nice block to help you tell apart the 287 a and b. Light and darker green

It came from a cover that I could not save.


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Posted 02/06/2021   08:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Johan,

Nice, Nr.278x with flaws on basic stamp. What you have are position 64-65 (not all sheet) The flaw IV is found on position 10, 15, 60, 65. The same combination 64-65 exist but with Nr.278x V.

Example here on cover.

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Posted 02/06/2021   09:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Official stamp, issued December 1, 1923 with plate flaw PE1 (parallel appearance)
Fields 43,48,93 and98.
Michel#104P HT (Plate B)




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Posted 02/06/2021   11:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice examples guys! And, thanks Johan and Hornet for the #162 positions 64 and 65 explanation. I had always thought that they were just different states of the same flaw. Michel doesn't help the user here.

Here is one from the "Farewell" series, which offers plenty of opportunities for the plate flaw seeker. This is an easy one. It is a white spot on the sower's shoe, Mi 127 PF I, from positions 21, 26, 71 and 76.

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