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Posted 03/21/2021   8:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Found this today
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Posted 03/24/2021   5:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Just_fella,

Looks like printing defect, not a real PLF.

Here examples on Nr.314 A W.

Hornet


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Edited by hornet785 - 03/24/2021 5:03 pm
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Posted 03/24/2021   8:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,
If you notice on row 2,all the stamps have the upper part of overprint 1 rounded.
On rows 1 and 3 the top of 1 is sharp.
I checked on my stamps / they all had 1 sharp.
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Posted 03/26/2021   09:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi cupram,

This bloc are position 56-79 (which I received from a friend and was buried in my archive and never looked at it) So seeing Just_fella stamps made me remember that I saw this kind of thing somewhere. The only real PLF is 67. Others printing defect.

So I did ask and received confirmation. These are valued in old books (1994) in Marks. Again only in study groups and or specialised books you will find these.

So very important to distinguish between 1- Field characteristics 2- Printing defects and 3- Plateflaws.

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Posted 03/26/2021   11:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Hornet,
Shouldn't the HT type plate flaw have occurred in field 68?
I don't have enough experience and the resolution isn't enough either, but in field 68 can it be KT (Korrekturtype)? But in Michel isn't registered 314KT. ??
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Posted 03/26/2021   12:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi cupram,

No because they are W not plate printing

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Posted 03/27/2021   08:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you hornet
I did not notice the identification of the block with W.
I recently bought a booklet Mi # 55
In the Michel catalog are mentioned 4 (a, b, c and d=500 Euro) types differentiated by the angles of the dotted lines in the grid (45 and 75) and by the distance between the points (WEIT = wide and ENG = narrow)
What I don't know is the size of this distance between the points in the grid (with an acceptable error I counted 75 points over a distance of 10 mm)







Is it "weit" or "eng"?
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Posted 03/27/2021   11:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi cupram,

Not my cup of tea because I drawn a line on what I collect. But by reviewing Michel:

You have 45 black and 75 red both dots distances are same. So my opinion it is a Nr.55 a.

If you look at the Nr.55 c image, eng looks pretty narrow distances between dots.

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Edited by hornet785 - 03/27/2021 11:14 am
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Posted 03/27/2021   4:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi hornet,
Yes, indeed In Michel (with German precision) at 55c the distance between the points is smaller.
But I would find somewhere in the catalog the distance between the points.For type "a" is 0.133 mm.
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Posted 04/07/2021   1:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Found this one a few days ago. It is not listed in Michel Deutschland-Spezial, but it is shown in Schantl's BRD/Berlin Plattenfehler Katalog, 5th edition. Stamp is the 20 +10 pf value of the 1965 Cinderella charity set.

There are two blue dots on the second step. Catalog says this occurred in part of the printing on FN2 (pane 2), field 43.


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Posted 04/07/2021   5:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

That is a beautiful example!

For people not knowing what is FN 2, here an example on Mi.Nr.394. Lower right corner of a sheet with the number 2 (FN 2).

I had the chance to find a sheet with the scarce position 19 (White dot) present in conjonction with position 39 and 48.

Hornet


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Posted 04/07/2021   6:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice one, hornet!

And, speaking of form numbers, here is a curious item mentioned in Michel. It is the FN 2 printed over 1 on the BRD 1956 Olympics commemorative.



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Posted 04/07/2021   6:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Will some of these be in Don's $395 supplement?
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Posted 04/07/2021   6:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I sure hope so!
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Posted 04/07/2021   7:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hornet785 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

Interesting, I know Special Catalogue exist for FN.

Here a Nr.231 double on eBay.de

https://www.ebay.de/itm/BRD-1956-Ol...154056059605

Hornet
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