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Posted 12/07/2021   12:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
txstamp, thanks. Appreciate the advice. Here's the rub, I don't have a copy of Neinken for the one cent imperf. Yep, I know, too bad for me! Right! =) Is that book posted anywhere in PDF? I looked to pick one up online but about swallowed my tongue noting the price. Wow!
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Posted 12/07/2021   12:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Moyock13 --

Nienken's 1c 1851 - 1861 book in PDF format is free at USPCS website's "Electronic Library".

Link is here:

https://d2jf3tgwe889fp.cloudfront.n...okmarked.pdf

Hopefully this link works!

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Posted 12/07/2021   12:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 12/07/2021   1:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You guys are awesome! Thanks!

Here's another item I've been meaning to post. I've always like these stamps. So, here's a Scott 15, relief B, type III... (I think). I have the Neinken book on the ten cent stamps.

Beautiful stamp except for the diagonal slice beside the upper left X.

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Posted 12/08/2021   10:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Returning to my previous post regarding the folded cover with the triple one cent 7 or 9's and reviewing Neinken, it looks to me that the left stamp is a relief B and the center and right are a relief T.
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Posted 12/08/2021   1:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tried to edit my original post to include a higher resolution image of the three one cent'er on the folded cover. It's been too long, can't edit so I'm posting the higher resolution image here.

[/img]https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img...3/QAMUpt.jpg[/img]

Thanks Classic Coins
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Posted 12/08/2021   2:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Left stamp is a B - good job.
Middle stamp is an A.
Right stamp is a T.

So you have one of each, which was one reason I brought all of this up - its a good exercise to study all 3 key reliefs here for these plates.

More later.
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Posted 12/08/2021   2:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Harper1249 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Right stamp appears to have a pair of guide dots in the upper right corner. This would support it being a T relief.
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Posted 12/08/2021   2:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So in determining the types, the next step would be to decide if you see a recut at top or bottom of any.

See my post here, for knowing how the relief can help aid this process:
http://goscf.com/t/72775&whichpage=118#717926
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Posted 12/08/2021   3:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Since Moyock13's link to the 1200-DPI trio of 1-cent stamps appears to have a glitch, here's a link that should work better:


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Posted 12/08/2021   3:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From trying to plate the three cent stamps, recut lines always seem to be a thicker more pronounced line if not doubled. Given that, there could be a recut(s) on the bottom of the Right (T relief) stamp under the "E" of "ONE". And there could be a recut on the top of the Left (B relief) the "OST" of POSTAGE. I don't see any recuts on the A relief.



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Posted 12/08/2021   3:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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there could be a recut(s) on the bottom of the Right (T relief) stamp under the "E" of "ONE". And there could be a recut on the top of the Left (B relief) the "OST" of POSTAGE. I don't see any recuts on the A relief.


Good answer.
The left stamp is definitely recut once at top. Can't see the bottom. That makes it a #9, Ty IV, for sure.

The middle stamp is not recut. That makes it a Ty II, #7.

The right stamp, being top row, is not recut at top. It is not recut at bottom either, and is therefore, a Ty II, #7. I agree that it is a bit hard to tell for sure if the bottom of the right stamp is recut or not -- so the key here is to look at the tidbit of the stamp beneath it that you can see. The top of that stamp beneath it -- which will be an A relief, is clearly not recut. That, therefore tells me that the T relief is not recut either, based upon overall plate layout, and, thus a Ty II.
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Posted 12/08/2021   3:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So one takeaway here, is if you want to get a lot better at figuring out types of the 1c stamp, without a full investment of plating them (which is necessary sometimes) - I'd say two key things to learn are:

- learn the reliefs
- learn the layout of the reliefs by plate

That will help you figure these out a lot quicker and easier. Good luck.
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Posted 12/08/2021   9:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
txstamp, thank you!

Gotta love the lessons learned here on this forum. You guys are the best thing since sliced bread!

Thanks again!


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Posted 12/10/2021   12:55 pm  Show Profile Check rlsny's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty stamp, previous owner said type II. With the bottom design slightly hidden, I'm not sure. Anyone want to weigh in? Thanks as always.

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