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Posted 12/29/2022   6:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Harper --

I love seeing multiple copies of the same position lined up -- very nice showing!

At the risk of being admonished -- I know I probably shouldn't even try to colorize stamps from a monitor -- (for all the reasons previously discussed on this thread and others) -- but on my monitor -- the first stamp looks to definitely be in the 1857 claret family -- and the last stamp looks to be brownish carmine -- just sayin!

Thanks for showing these.

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Posted 01/01/2023   4:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Happy New Year!

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Posted 01/01/2023   8:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Happy New Year CC!!
That guide dot looks like the Time Square ball.
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Posted 01/03/2023   10:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stanshepp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a nice share for the imperforate variety 3c Washington -

A nice #10A on piece with a LYNCHBURGH, VA CDS

88L2E

That's all.
Happy New Year!

Stan Shepp


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Posted 01/03/2023   10:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stanshepp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I might as well show another imperforate example of the 3c Washington -

Unplated, on piece - the piece adds nothing and may hide something.
It will be removed one of these days when I am doing such things.

Otherwise, just sharing.

Stan Shepp

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Posted 01/07/2023   9:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 40yearBreak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have finally gotten back around to trying to plate another one of these 1c Washington's and decided to try to do this on my own with the help of the plating wizard, but I am struggling.

I have identified this as Relief B, Recuts 1 & 11. Unfortunately, that gets 276 hits.

Could someone with much more experience than I push me in a direction of the likely plate based on the FL thickness and label and URDB lines that I am not so good at recognizing yet?


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Posted 01/07/2023   10:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Harper1249 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I haven't plated this yet but I'd start with 2L, then 3, then 5L. I'm guessing it's on 2L or 3. It's not a #10 so don't worry about those plates. The upper right diamond block isn't gouged so I wouldn't focus on 1L either.

Edit: Forgot to mention that it looks like the upper frame lines extends beyond the left frame lines in the upper left corner. Hard to tell though with the image quality. Upon further review this is incorrect so don't focus on it.

Good luck
Harper1249
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Edited by Harper1249 - 01/07/2023 11:32 pm
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Posted 01/08/2023   4:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi 40yearBreak --

I plated your stamp -- and agree with everything Harper has already said.

Here are a couple of additional comments to help facilitate your hunt:

The 1 line recut in the ULT is very long -- and notably longer than most -- so you should quickly be able to eliminate any stamp where the recut is notably shorter.

The LIL appears to run up a bit far -- touching 3 dots in the ULR and extending halfway toward touching a 4th dot. Not sure if this is enough for Chase to have listed the position as a recut #23 -- but definitely a characteristic that can be used to quickly eliminate any stamp where the LIL does not run up as high.

Your stamp is a B relief -- but is cut off at bottom -- so if it had a GD -- it is possible that it would have been cut off. Still, there are plenty of B reliefs with 1 line recut in the ULT that show big and bold GD's in the area that is visible on your stamp -- so another way to quickly eliminate positions having 1 line recut in the ULT.

Good luck -- and let us know where you land -- and we can confirm your plating for you.

Regards // ioagoa
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Posted 01/08/2023   5:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 40yearBreak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Harper1249 - Thanks for the response and direction. And I too was thrown off by that upper left corner. At first glance it looks like both the LFL and the TFL run to long and form a cross, but upon closer inspection, you can see that the TFL ends at the LFL, but there is a perfectly misleadingly placed snudge that makes it looks like it continues.

Ioagoa - thanks for the comments. After my first pass, I had thought that 24R3 was the best match, but that location is noted as also having recut #23 where the LIFL runs up too high, and I wasn't really seeing that on my stamp. Otherwise, all attributes matched very well. Is it possible that that attribute fades with plate wear and my stamp is a late plate 3 issue?

After my 2nd pass, I am still going with 24R3 as the best match, and 96R3 as my second choice.

Does that match what you found?
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Posted 01/08/2023   6:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi 40yearBreak --

YEP -- I agree that your stamp is position 24R3.

Great plating job !!

Regards // ioagoa
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Posted 01/08/2023   11:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Harper1249 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice job 40yearBreak!
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Posted 01/10/2023   9:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stanshepp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott #11A, Both inner lines recut, B-relief, Guide dot lower right corner, 1 line recut in upper left triangle.

I am struggling with this one.
Possibly 87L3?

Stan Shepp

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Posted 01/11/2023   8:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TexasGunny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's an 11a with a Christmas cancellation.


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Posted 01/11/2023   9:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice cancel, TexasGunny! Thanks for showing it.
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Posted 01/11/2023   9:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Harper1249 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stanshepp, I think you are correct with 87L3. There are several unique features with this position. Obviously the guide dot. The upper left corner of the upper left DB is faint. The recut in the upper left triangle is longer than usual. There is an recut mark extending beyond the top right corner of the lower left DB. And finally, the upper portion of the right inner frame line that runs up into the upper right triangle has a very slight bow in it. All of these features appear on other examples of the 87L3. Compression images match up as well.

Harper1249
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