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Posted 01/12/2023   07:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stanshepp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Harper!
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Posted 01/12/2023   3:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I picked this cover because my name is Kittle. Kind of like having birth month and day on cover.
Turns out it has a lovely stamp also. I love the Rose ish colors of the 3 cent stamps.
Of course I know it may not translate onto the screen very well.
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Posted 01/12/2023   6:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's a really cool cover with a beautiful stamp, stampcrow. Is the stamp yellowish rose red? YRR is one of my favorite 3-cent imperforate colors.
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CC, I believe it is YRR and it really is a beautiful color on a piece of paper 170 some years old.
I still don't have a scanner that allows me to make better images or at least images useful for plating etc. but I thought I could get back to sharing postmarks, cancels and some general interest 3c stuff.
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Sometimes you bump across a deal that you just can't refuse. Picked up 25 imperfs for about $35 on ebay. Really can't beat that deal.

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Posted 01/16/2023   4:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ioagoa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Moyock --

Nice pick-up -- and I see there is an 1856 year dated CDS (third row, 6th stamp) -- which are not easy to find -- and if I recall correctly, command a premium in Scott's.

Those stamps should provide a few hours of plating enjoyment as well.

Again -- nice pick-up !!

Regards // ioagoa
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GeoffHa, thank you!!
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Posted 01/16/2023   8:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ioagoa, thanks. These should keep me busy for a while.

Looking at one stamp in particular, 10R6, Upper Right Triple Guide Dots.



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Posted 01/17/2023   04:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Saint Denis/Saint Dennis, Maryland.
(See listing in American Stampless Cover Catalog.)

Add: for the record, posted in response to a post which has since been deleted, identifying Saint Denis as from another state.
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Posted 01/17/2023   2:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you John. I hadn't given the cancel much thought but had assumed it was "Md.".
When I did see the post you refer to, I then did a google search to confirm that there is a Saint Dennis, Md.
This was my first opportunity to follow up with a reply.
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Posted 01/17/2023   3:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 40yearBreak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to ioagoa and Harper1249 for confirming my last plating.

Since I still haven't reached double digits with my plating, I was hoping someone could confirm this one also.

I believe this is a Relief A, recuts #1 & #23 (LIFL runs up to high).

I am pretty confident that this is 77R1L.

The plating wizard gave only 62 options, and this stamp has unique shaped left and right frame lines that keep getting closer to the design as they go down, and then bend back out just as they reach the center of the lower two rosettes which is not very common.


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Posted 01/17/2023   5:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stanshepp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sharing this pair today. Including my writeup from a facebook post earlier today:

What a beautiful pair! Scott #10A - Orange Brown. The scan doesn't do the color justice.

Positions 13-14R5E Horizontal Pair with "SAN FRANCISCO, CALIF." CDS

This pair provides a great comparison for this double (or shifted) transfer evident on the right stamp (14R5E).

Notice the stray ink that is inside the "THREE CENTS" lettering on the bottom of the right stamp. Also notice how clean the left stamp is in those same areas.

Now look inside the lettering "U.S.POSTAGE" at the top of each stamp. Clearly evident doubling inside these letters as well. The lettering on the top of the left stamp, 13R5E, isn't as clear as the bottom, but it appears as if only edge smears have encroached on the white portion of the letter. That is more of an inking issue than a transfer issue.

How about the margins? They are mostly Jumbo - especially for these orange brown stamps. Margins like this generally demand a large premium.
Both stamps are "A" Relief, with both inner lines recut, and no guide dots.

These jumbo examples show a good portion of the bottom of the stamps above. Being from the second horizontal row, they show the bottom of the stamps above - which are from the top row. As is often (always?) the case, the guide dots on the top row stamps are in the upper right corner.
Often, with A-relief stamps and jumbo top margins, you can use the guide dot of the B-relief stamp above it to assist in plating it. In this case, it is the absence of a guide dot from the stamps above that hints that they are second row stamps.

On plate 5E, Chase says:

"The following shifted transfers all slight are found on the left pane: 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 11, and 21L5(E). The shifts on the right pane are 4, 7, 14, 24, 68, and 96R5(E). These, too, are all very faint, excepting 4, 14, and 24, which are strong.
"Generally speaking, none of the re-cut lines on this plate are very heavy, the work being rather delicately done. The normal recutting consisted of going over the four frame lines, both inner lines (except in the instances mentioned), the top of the upper label block and the top of the upper right diamond block."

Chase also says this about Plate 5 Early - "The plate showed no evidence of wear."

This example looks almost proof-like, and yet the CDS appears to be MAY 3 - even if 1852, this would be a very late usage of a plate 5E stamp - but the imprint looks like it was printed in July of 1851.

I briefly looked through my other 5 Early stamps and I do not see any wear on any of them. I was looking for a worn one to scan for comparison, but it was not to be. Maybe Chase was right. #128578;

Enjoy!
Stan Shepp

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Posted 01/18/2023   09:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Harper1249 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
40yearBreak,

I agree with your conclusion that your stamp is position 77R1L. Nice job.

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Harper1249
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