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Posted 02/05/2023   6:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Postmark 814
3-2-2-3
Used at Truro, Cornwall
South West England
Home of the Cornish Pastie. (Yum)
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Posted 02/05/2023   9:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can vouch for that Rod, having had the 'real deal'
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Posted 02/05/2023   11:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well I've never had one. But I'd like to try it!

Tks for all the help. I'm learning these cancels too!! Wm.
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Posted 02/06/2023   02:44 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
May I recommend Sarah's Pasty Shop?

http://sarahspastyshop.com/pasty-menu/

I haven't been there, but the flatmate of my daughter's boyfriend is a relative, and occasionally transports some of their goodies back to London. But the best pasties I've had were made by my ex's auntie, who was actually born in Yorkshire.

Probably wouldn't travel intercontinentally, sadly.
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Posted 02/06/2023   4:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Couldn't get it quite square, but I think Plate 23?


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Posted 02/06/2023   5:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a 23 to me
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Posted 02/06/2023   5:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Looks like a 23 to me


Tks Bobby. Always nice to have another set of eyes on it!!
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Posted 02/07/2023   12:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Plate no. 75 ? The fringes all around have me curious - not scissor cut...

Has a nice cancel Rod - haven't looked that up yet. And what's that mark between the base of the 2 and the 5?


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Posted 02/07/2023   12:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Happy to help Stamps4Life

Your latest has a Dover postmark. The mark is just an artefact, maybe a piece of lint or some such.

I've just finished plating 13 of my own stamps so my eyes are fried

I'll look at yours tomorrow morning my time!
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Posted 02/07/2023   12:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, nice Killer 258 3-2-2-3
Further to Bobby's ID
Dover Duplex
(high flourish on the tail of the "2")


One thing about these penny reds, and blacks, that intrigues me,

I know how the "rose engine" worked on the background scroll work,
but how did they manage Her Majesty's visage, clear of the scroll work?


Your "A-I" looks like a standard London Maltese Cross
has an extended right hand arm, to the central diamond.
(Pure guesswork)
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I don't know Rod, but it is a very interesting question! Perhaps there was a void between the two vertical rows of engine turning, to leave space for the portrait? I wouldn't mind knowing the answer to this question myself.


Looks like a 75 to me Stamps4Life. It gives the impression the stamp was torn (very very carefully) by hand rather than cut with scissors.


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Posted 02/07/2023   3:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Your latest has a Dover postmark. The mark is just an artefact, maybe a piece of lint or some such.


Thank you. The visual Rod put up helped too. I see that the bottom tail of the 5 curled up more than I had imagined so that the little semi-circle to the right does indeed look like a little lint or hair!!

I have some .pdf on postmarks from the GBPS site, but none that show the marking with the 258. I have 258 listed as dover, but not actually what the cancel looked like. Do you perhaps have a link to share which will give me the actual cancel with ID?? Thanks again.
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Posted 02/07/2023   3:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes Rod , a pretty strike! Tks for the visual also. I had asked on the ragged edges because I have a few stamps inscribed on the back, 'Roul' - guessing for rouletted and did not know if this was one?? I dont often see the rough edges.
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Posted 02/07/2023   3:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You'll be wanting Parmenter's books. For postmark collectors this is one of the best resources on the internet.

https://www.gbps.org.uk/information...ostmarks.php

Dover is in Kent.

I'm quite sure these stamps were never officially rouletted, so maybe some were done privately?
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Posted 02/07/2023   4:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Got it. Tks! I did have the excel numeral listing, but the visuals are nice!!
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