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Posted 08/31/2020   11:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a diagram of the 10c stamp which I had previously uploaded, in case it helps the discussion on reference points. I'll defer to caper or dudley to explain.


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Posted 08/31/2020   11:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are the 5 Sc 35's I've got. the last picture is on a cover and it's penciled in that it's plated 91R2.

The third ten cent was previously posted questioning the cancel.





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Posted 08/31/2020   11:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
While I'm at it, here's Neinken's Ty V drawing:

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Posted 08/31/2020   3:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
moyock, if you are asking what to look for to identify Type V (Scott #35), then check to see if there are three pearls on both sides attached to the bottom plumes (see the reference diagram posted by txstamp above). If there are any less than six full pearls altogether then you have a Type V. All the stamps you show are Type V. The top one appears to be position 10R2 (Relief A top row: guide dot at UR. See attached copy of Neinken drawing for this position); the bottom one does indeed look like 91R2.

You should get access to Neinken's book on the Ten-Cent Stamps of 1855-1859. The USPCS Electronic Library makes it available.


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Posted 08/31/2020   3:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, guys! I'll do just that!
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Posted 09/03/2020   7:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Picked up what I think is an early 26. Chase says that most of the stamps printed in the first 6 months of 1857 were imperforate.

The description of the stamp said "trimmed 26" and it does have similar characteristics for a 26. The give away for me was that there is another partial stamp, a centerline and no perforations between.

Unfortunately a good portion of the bottom of the stamp is trimmed away.

What do you think?

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Posted 09/07/2020   07:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Does anyone know the perforation hole size diameter for these stamps?
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Posted 09/07/2020   10:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mayock- I vote poorly penfed and trimmed 26. I have a 26A much the same.
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Posted 09/20/2020   03:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So can someone tell me what is so special about this stamp?
I thought it was a 24?
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Posted 09/20/2020   04:51 am  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not a #24. At least a #22. Perhaps a #21. I would want to plate it or have it in hand to be certain that it is a #21 but odds are it is indeed a Type III, Scott #21.
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Posted 09/20/2020   04:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you sinclair
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Posted 09/20/2020   10:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Laurie, even though the right-side ornaments are partially cut away you can see that they are more complete than they would be on a #24. Also, the break in the top frame line is much smaller than is the case on #24. This is a Plate 4 C Relief, which as sinclair said produced both #21 and #22.
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Posted 09/20/2020   10:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I vote Type III (Scott 21) and though the photo is somewhat unclear it looks quite a bit like 21L4.
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Posted 09/20/2020   10:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Moyock - back to your questions about the green 10c Washingtons:

If the bottom left and right shell is complete the stamp can only be a Type I or V stamp. If it has the three pearls on both sides it is always a Type I. If it has three pearls on only one side then it is almost always a Type V. If the lower bottom plumes are incomplete then your stamp will be a Type II,III, or IV. Type IV's top/bottom or both lines rather strongly recut. There are a few other differences that one should know but I would do as Dudley recommended above and refer to the Neinken book on the 10c stamp!
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Posted 09/23/2020   6:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Need some help plating this stamp very recently received. Though listed as a Type V I am not convinced it is not a Va.

It is not an easy one to plate. The closest I can come up with is 100L5 but I can find few to compare it to. My considerations are:
1) It has a straight right edge without any sign of perfs (small notch on top right is wear.) I'm assuming right side of left pane trimmed inside of line.
2) It has all the appearances of being an 'F' relief with the broken top and longer bottom line.
3) The right scroll has the apparent completeness of a bottom row stamp.
4) Side ornaments are as complete as the example in the 1c Franklin Archive example.
I can find no identifying plate marks.


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