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Posted 10/09/2022   10:52 am  Show Profile Check Chipshot's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Chipshot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have this pair which I believe to be #26's. But I am posting it here for a couple of reasons. First it appears that the left frame line has been strengthened, and also as both rt frame lines have very slight doubling at the bottom. I hope my image is such that one of you might confirm my thinking and might indicate which plate and position I have here.


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Posted 10/11/2022   2:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dutch US Stamp Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
as I asked for help on the imperf 3 cents topic, and as a learning student probably will have many more questions it seemed appropriate to share some of my collection as well
starting with the #25 plate crack 47-48R7

i was fortunate to be allowed to acquire a intact pair in a private sale, none in SAN or Siegel, not sure how many are out there????

and a lovely cover to france with a 36 and 25, the 25 being 48R7. in this case I am happy the stamp is off center so the crack show nicely






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Posted 10/12/2022   11:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Harper1249 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dutch, congrats on getting that cover. Its a beautiful thing. I was bidding on it as well but it blew past my budget there at the end.
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Posted 10/21/2022   10:37 am  Show Profile Check rlsny's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These two original gum type V stamps showed up in a worldwide box (my wife does worldwide). Cool find - just sharing.

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Posted 10/21/2022   11:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mootermutt987 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Score!!
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Posted 10/21/2022   11:57 am  Show Profile Check jamesg's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jamesg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice rlsny!
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Posted 10/24/2022   8:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stanshepp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dutch, nice crack!
I like the large margin as well.
I didn't even look at the other margin, that how much I cared that it was off center.

This share isn't supposed to be a response to your crack, but I came here to share this one and saw your along the way.

#26 Pair - Positions 71-72L18 - on cover.

The BIG CRACK as seen on the left stamp is very collectible and sought after because of how absolutely bold it is. The second (right) position, 72L18, also shows the skinny end of the crack and while it is less sought after than position 71L18, it is equally as rare.

Having the pair still connected and on a cover is exactly what my collections would want to have.

And it does.

:)

Enjoy!

Stan Shepp


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Posted 10/27/2022   10:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dutch US Stamp Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
nice stan, that was a steal!
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Posted 11/22/2022   3:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stanshepp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sharing -

Top Row Strip of 4 MNH #26 with Top Selvage.

Stan Shepp

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Posted 11/23/2022   8:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stanshepp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sharing today -

Scott #26 block of 3 with a NORWICH, NY "PAID 12" in a circle (Skinner & Eno - PM-PNc 41)

Simpson's lists this on pages 124 & 125 and says that it is a rarity 8, which means "Very Rare 4-6 known".

I got three right here!!

Left stamp with straddle margin and centerline.

Enjoy!

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Posted 01/03/2023   10:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stanshepp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey all!

This thread was so far down on the list that I knew that I needed to share something - and quick!

I have an unplated #26 (Care to opine on it) with a little bit of staining on the tips of some of the perforations. (BTW, check out that centering!!)

My question is this - Cleaning Stamps. You know, maybe a dab of dawn in a little bit of warm water for a nice bath - then a good rinse off and maybe the paper brightens up, maybe the perf toning disappears, maybe the stamp grades a little bit higher. A little bit of time in some H2O2 to bring the original color back out - VOILA!

I am hoping that this will open a can of worms - with people who are totally against such altering of stamps, and then there are probably some who are fine with anything that doesn't leave record behind.

So - let's hear your opinions!

Also - if you care to, go ahead and opine on the perfs on the right hand side. Scissors cut? Reperf?

Thoughts?

Stan Shepp

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Posted 01/03/2023   10:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stanshepp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Silly me -

I was only going to make one post about one stamp - LOL

Here, this should round things out a bit -

Scott #26, used block of 4, with double vertical perforations.
Ugly as all get out - but still pretty cool!

PSE Certified

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Posted 01/03/2023   10:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stanshepp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sharing a nice #26 - MNH - Plated as 19L15

My notes say -
"Internal design recutting exists on eight positions in the plate, three in the left pane and five in the right pane. Generally, the recutting was to the upper left triangle or under the upper left rosette. All the recuts were light and all tended to fade as the plate wore."
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I have most of Plate 15 reconstructed and I pulled them out to find this position. Winston gave me the hint that it was a B-Relief, which limits it to the second row. I checked the second row stamps to find the three lines recut under the upper left rosette. BINGO! Position 19L15!
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Chase mentions those recut lines as well (See image) -
"Six stamps show recutting of the upper left triangle; in five, one vertical line; * * * * * These six positions also show in addition a little recutting near the top of the left band of tessellated work. The plate positions of the one line recuts are : - 19, 59 & 69L & 15, 58 and 59R15."
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Chase: "Near the top of the left tessellated work"
Me: "at 8 o'clock of the upper left rosette"
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Same locations, different verbiage,
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Also, Chase says here that this positions has a single line recut in the upper left triangle. Scott's Specialized Catalogue lists this recut.

And is the right inner line recut? Looks like it to me, but I have a better scan than y'all.

I am interested in someone who knows more telling us a little bit more.

Stan Shepp





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Posted 01/12/2023   1:49 pm  Show Profile Check rlsny's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looking for assistance in typing this stamp. Previous owner had it marked "21?" which I guess is a good start. Without the bottom outer frame line I have no way to know type III or type IIIa. Since IIIa is less valuable maybe I should just assume it is that. Anyone want to weigh in?
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Posted 01/12/2023   2:48 pm  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
rlsny, above the "S" in POSTAGE, it looks like there is a scratch above the weak portion of the curved line. On Doporto's site, I see that there "may" be a scratch above that part of the line also on 46R4. Also, there appears to be a mark in the "O" of ONE on your stamp also.

Without a high-res scan, it's almost impossible to see weak plating marks. Compounding that with the fact that Plate 4 changed so much and it's hard to ID from Plate 4, just makes it more difficult. I thought I'd take a shot at it, and I'll throw 46R out there which is Type IIIA, closest I could come up with.

Thanks, Ray
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