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Posted 03/03/2010   9:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add philb to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Here are some private courier labels from Pembina on the U.S. side to Canada !

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Posted 03/03/2010   10:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have a number of these on cover, Somewhere. They were produced by Kasimir Bilesky. As I recall he passed away in the 90's at 90+ years of age.
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Posted 03/03/2010   11:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Revstampman You are correct he had postoffice boxes in Pembina and Winnipeg !!
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I take it the Blue is First Class and the Pink, second class.



Nice labels.

Londonbus1.....not stalking, honest.
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Oops! Just seen that one is outward and the other inward journey.
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Posted 03/04/2010   12:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Actually one is from Canada to US. The other is US to Canada.
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Posted 03/04/2010   12:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i can not win !!
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Posted 03/04/2010   11:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, Bileski was a stamp dealer here in Winnipeg, who also had a Post Office box in the USPS installation in Pembina, ND.

Because there was a difference in the price of postage from US to Canada, his American customers could use the US domestic rate to get mail to him at the Pembina address. Also, this allowed him to reply to his American customers and escape the higher rate from Canada to the US by mailing from Pembina.

The labels he produced were stuck onto the letters to US customers to account for a mythical portion of the journey from Winnipeg to Pembina -- which in reality was little more than Bileski driving down to Pembina to check his mail and mail a few letters.

The Pembina address also came in handy when Canada Post was on strike and mail from the US to Canada was officially embargoed by the USPS (as is typical in a strike situation). By sending mail to him im Pembina, the message still got through despite the fact that there was a mail strike in Canada.

Little more than a gimmick, but very ingenious on his part. What would be interesting would be to find such a label on a letter not originating from Bileski or his Stamp Store, which would show that he couriered for the public at large during a mail strike in Canada. From what I have been able to find out locally he would occasionally do so, despite the fact that such a thing was illegal in those days before private couriers, and the carrying of mail was apparently legally a government monopoly to perform.
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Some gossip on Bileski.

New Bileski Title Pages

Three new title pages have just been published by K. Bileski,
Station B, Winnipeg, Canada. Designed by the renowned artist,
Arthur Szyk, the new pages comprise one for Great Britain,
one for the U.S.S.R., and another for the Airmails of the World.

All are in the same high standard of workmanship which has
characterized previous pages in this series and they are
exceptionally good, as I have commented here in the past.


- George B. Sloane
Sloane's Column
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October 4, 1947
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Tying the relationship with Bileski to artist Arthur Szyk,
One has to wonder if Szyk designed the Cinderellas?
Would a closeup of the Cinderella have Syzk's name aboard?

Here is a Cinderella by Szyk that gives the US Aust alliance.
Syzk signed this 1944

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Posted 03/02/2021   9:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add echipman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have a cover (us stamp) wth a similar sticker showing a paddlewheel steamer and dated 1982. Is there a maejet for these?
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Posted 03/03/2021   4:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chipg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This isn't the first time there was a courier from Winnipeg to Pembina.

During the mid-1800s, really the only way to send and receive mail at Winnipeg (then the Red River Settlement) was through Pembina. The original courier was by oxcart.

Look at this exhibit for the full story:
http://redriver.cgpostal.com
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