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Brazilian Bull Eye 90. Is It Possible From The Pictures (Included) To Know Whether It Is Authentic?

 
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Posted 07/06/2020   1:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danstamps54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The short answer is, no, you can't be certain from a picture.

Peter pointed you to stampsmarter.com. Look there in Album Weeds. There is a description of Bull's Eye forgeries.

You also might try http://stampforgeries.com/forged-st...-spud-paper/

It's generally an expensive stamp. Mine came with a cert.

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Posted 07/06/2020   1:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Fake , no detail in background
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The longer I look at your stamp, the less inclined I am to think it's genuine. The numbers don't stand out and the background is blurry.

If it turns out to be authentic, it's a very late printing.

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Floortrader,



I should type faster! LOL

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Posted 07/06/2020   1:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a scan from Kelleher Stamp Auctions , notice the art work details in the background .
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Posted 07/06/2020   4:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks genuine to me.
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Posted 07/06/2020   4:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm thinking it's just the blurry scan that's making everyone think it's fake. Almost all the forgeries are much easier to see. Try rescanning to get a clean image. Some of these get pretty worn, see Paul's image from Kelleher. The 90 reis is obviously in a late stage of worn. Here are mine:
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Posted 07/06/2020   9:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Looks genuine to me.


Myself, also.
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Posted 07/07/2020   03:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicalStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The conclusion you can reach from an image is "it looks genuine" at best. Your image is poor quality, so that reduces your chances of reaching a sound conclusion even further.

Genuine are engraved, most forgeries are lithographed.
You have to take into account that the plates were worn in the late printings.

It is not a Sperati forgery (most dangerous forgery).
Reason: Postmark doesn't match

Other forgeries are fairly easy to distinguish, as they are either very crude or have specific design flaws / known postmarks. Comparing to forgeries attributed to these forgers: Patroni, Spiro, Zechmeyer, Oneglia, Mercier, Fournier -

your specimen doesn't match any of them.

So, it looks genuine.
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Genuine worn impression:

First composite plate, state "B" pos.7.:

(Meyer 2007 certificate)
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Edited by ClassicalStamps - 07/07/2020 04:16 am
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Posted 07/07/2020   04:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cupram to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi
You can use "Vade-mecum by F. Serrane" (I think you can find it on "stampsmarter")
The area of interest is covered by obliteration, but as a non-specialist opinion, I think the stamp is fake.




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Posted 07/07/2020   09:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The question comes down to anybody is going to buy it without a cert. , sure I'll buy it for $5.00 as a forgery . It is not a stamp that a inexperience collector would buy ,the question is if your buying a $1400 stamps where is the $30.00 cert .

Here is the stamp I would take with me if I was looking to purchase a real stamp ,this one cost me less than a dollar .
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