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Crete: 1905 Revolutionary Govt Lithographs.

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Posted 02/12/2011   6:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The standard test for forgeries of the King George design is the other way round: the frame line is double at the right on the genuine stamps and reprints (as in Collin's scan) and single at the right in the forgeries (as in the two in Rodney's original post).
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Posted 02/12/2011   6:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
However, the forgeries are usually obvious as such at first glance before checking the frame.
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Posted 02/12/2011   6:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A great rehash on the original thread,
great new scans and info!
Quickly plundered, and placed in my Crete folder.
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Posted 02/12/2011   6:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Now, if only we could get that original poster to change to topic thread to something that includes "revolutionary" and "1905" (or some such thing).

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Posted 05/08/2011   05:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add VERGIS92 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi everyone,

I have a stamp, like the first one seen in the main forum picture but with inverted center, found among many other greek stamps I recently purchased.

Can anyone please advise me if this particular one is of any value, based on some official catalog. (and where I can get it certified)


Thanks in advance



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Posted 05/08/2011   06:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DavidR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Terrific thread, missed this one first time round!
Glad to affirm all my Therisson Crete appear to be OK.
Welcome Vergis92
Can't find any information for your inverted centre King George, my 2008 Hellas catalogue has no such variety mentioned.
DavidR
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Posted 05/08/2011   07:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Vergis92, I'm afraid your stamp is a forgery.

There were no genuine inverted centres in this issue.
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Posted 05/08/2011   07:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good news David, but OK as in "not forgeries" or "not reprints"?
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Posted 05/08/2011   07:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DavidR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nigel
Looking at the thread I reckon they are not forgeries, but (as I am finding out) with a lot of old stamps reprints are always a possibility. The good thing is they didn't cost me anything substantial as they came in an old collection I bought a while back, so at least I can't be out of pocket, and they look OK in my Greek collection!
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Posted 07/24/2011   8:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add yanni48 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello friends,

The way to distinguish the fakes from the genuine copy's is simple. The genuine stamps all have framing lines on the stamps. The fakes do not and you'll notice that the stamps without the lines are always on different paper. I hope this is helpful. BTW, the inverted stamp pictured in this article is genuine and this issue also is found imperforate. Of the 6 issues shown in the beginning of this article only the 5 lepta and the 20 lepta are genuine.
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Posted 01/19/2012   10:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add War Eagle to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I had posted this in a new thread before I was aware of this one.

Why are there forgeries and reprints of these particular stamps? And is there a reason why they are not in Scott's?
Thanks again.
Donna




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Posted 06/18/2014   02:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicalStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You can gather information about forgeries of Crete (incl. these stamps) here:

http://stampforgeries.com/forged-stamps-of-crete/
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Posted 06/18/2014   2:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's good to see this thread alive again.

Be careful with images on http://stampforgeries.com/forged-stamps-of-crete/

For example, of the Russian Administration one metallik blue stamps the left hand example is also a forgery (although labelled as "genuine").

The site does recommend the best handbook on Crete which is by Rienk Feenstra & Friends.
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Posted 06/18/2014   2:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good catch, Nigel!

Will you be emailing them to let them know?
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Posted 06/18/2014   2:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to everyone for the really helpful info here on this great thread. I've just checked mine and at least they are not forgeries. I may have missed it, but how do you tell reprints from the original printing?
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