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Posted 09/16/2020   09:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Just_fella to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have a couple questions
So I open a envelope marked Tripolitania
And found a mix of stamps

The Russian stamps caught my eye
So I checked for the inverted center/backgrounds
No luck
Then moved on to the vertical/horizontal paper
(I'll get to that)
Right now I'm curious about colour variations
My old books don't get into details


Looking between 1883-1912
I have these listed as 2 green/dark Green or yellow green
And the 3 listed as either Carmine/rose red
I do try to put in the work to find things
Just maybe don't know what to search
So I gotta ask my first question
What am I missing? Forgery's,errors Or just again
Lack of understanding or resources

Thanks Again for the help

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Posted 09/16/2020   09:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 22crows to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps you need to look a bit earlier. Checking out this site might enlighten you:

https://www.stamp-collecting-world....ps_1857.html
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Posted 09/16/2020   11:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ha ha
Thanks 22crows
Didn't think to look further back
In the regent word stamp album
I assume they came out of
only listed 1889-1917


And I tried to match it up to the catalogue
By using the crown and scroll appearance
I thought I read somewhere that it helps identify
But it makes more sense being 1865-75 sg#13 or 20 for the 3
(Haven't checked for the watermark yet)
And a 1875-79 sg#26 on horizontally laid
they are both 14 1/2 x 15 Perf
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Posted 09/16/2020   12:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Or am I off on the 14 1/2 x 15
And does it matter?



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Posted 09/16/2020   1:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Posted the wrong set of photos first
(Those are my double check)
I did check on two Different gauges
I still could be off




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Posted 09/16/2020   4:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's the 3 on the other gauge (two is the same)
I took a wider picture cause the 14 1/2 and the 15 label
Get covered when I put the stamp over
Am I doing something wrong?
(Aside from the multiple posts... sorry)
I didn't feel the first sets where Good enough
showing the difference And had to show with another gauge



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Posted 09/16/2020   7:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What do you look for to identify a 20 kon with inverted groundwork?
Anyone know a link?
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Posted 09/16/2020   7:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StatesmanStamper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The original mix looks very similar to some mixed glassines I've been working through. The only advice I can give is to never trust what's written/marked on the envelope. Even possibly when it's your own writing from years before.

I'd suggest using the Stamp World website as a resource in identifying rough year of issue. The wealth of images has been very helpful to me in my own efforts at organizing my collection. Doesn't replace a worldwide catalog like Scott, but can definitely be a valuable adjunct to it.

Dale
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Posted 09/16/2020   7:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dots in the diamonds down?
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Posted 09/16/2020   7:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks dale
None is my writing
I have no idea what's here
I'm trying to learn
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Posted 09/16/2020   7:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StatesmanStamper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Try searching in this forum. Odds are you're far from the first to be asking about this.

Dale
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Posted Yesterday   12:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Willwood42 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think in the inverted background the very small numerals in the pink or green part of the stamp would be upside down. Also the same for the 5 kopek, where the "V" would be upside down. Yours are not.

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Posted Yesterday   2:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
What do you look for to identify a 20 kon with inverted groundwork?
Anyone know a link?

Search turned up this , among others, Wildwood is very close.
http://goscf.com/t/69600
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Posted Yesterday   2:45 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From another SCF thread

Invert background, note the bottom with background crown void


Don
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Posted Today  15 Hrs 19 Min ago  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Everyone
Sorry I should have been more clear
I was looking to see about how to check this 20 kon
It's the dots down in the diamonds so there normal
l
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Posted Today  15 Hrs 12 Min ago  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Out of curiosity can anyone translate Belarusian?
I came a cross a 2005a us 100$ Bill with a print on
The back
It's probably fake
I'm pretty sure it's Belarusian
HE translates to not
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