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King George V Sideface Varieties

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Posted 11/03/2020   3:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add itma to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
BW 81(3)n (SG 95) & 82(3)n (SG 125) 1d Green - Thinned left frame. Note that the right frame is also somewhat thinner than normal in the BW 81 only. See close up for comparison to normal (in grey).

Plate 3, Pane VI, Position 22 (VI/22)

This variety was first seen in June 1914 and is present on all issues of the 1d denomination, i.e. BW 76 to 82.

81(3)n




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It's a Scott 20 stamp. Probably with too much ink when printing. 2 deformations appear (what I noticed). Are they due to the printing process or are they plate flaws?




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I do not see anything in the catalogue (ACSC 2007)

You should endeavor to supply known ID
Perf
Wmk

Sc#20 translates to 1923 Typo (Mesh Verticle) Guage 14
1/2d Orange 2nd Wmk

I would have expected to see the frame damage listed.

Let's see what the experts suggest.

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Thank you rod.I have only Scott for Australia.
I confirm : perf.14 and wmk.9 (Wide Crown and Narow A),1923 and typo.
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I was quite surprised, I have 1000's of KGV Sidefaces,
but only 4 x Sc#20

All mine West Australian Pmks...no similar damage.
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Cupram:

This appears to be a constant variety on Electro VI, Left Pane, Position 12. Per Dix and Rowntree's "The George V Halfpenny", this is described as:

White margin at right: line of colour for 0.5mm beginning 10.75mm from the top with thinning of adjacent right frame.

There is no mention of the disturbance at the top which looks to me more like an inking situation.

Frank.

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Cupram:

Does your catalogue give a date of issue for your Scott 20 so that I can identify the BW number and include it in the index for this topic?

Frank.
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Quote:
This appears to be a constant variety on Electro VI, Left Pane, Position 12. Per Dix and Rowntree's "The George V Halfpenny",


I find it testing, reading Dix and Rowntree.
Not sure if they had differing releases of the halfpenny.(catalogue)

I cannot find any instance of "position 12"

I can see Electro 6, lower member of 3rd set
Left pane
2nd state (Later single printings)
(c) Right Margin coloured spot filling white margin 3.5mm from bottom

I assume the measurement is 3.5mm from white margin above Emu's back.

Or.........

"Unpositioned constant flaws"
Electros 5,6,7,and 8

B15 Right white margin
small colour flaw projecting from inner side of frame, 3.75mm rom lower corner, and filling, or nearly filling white margin.

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Quote:
Does your catalogue give a date of issue for your Scott 20


1923
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Thinking aloud..
The stamp in question cannot be Electro 6 ? half penny green.

Orange (Harrison)

Only avail match 4th set lower Electro 7 (Rosenblum)
5th set upper electro 8 and 9
both single Wmk Orange

Dix & Rowntree
4th set lower electro 7 and 8
5th set upper electro 8 and 9

Comments?

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Quote:
White margin at right: line of colour for 0.5mm beginning 10.75mm from the top with thinning of adjacent right frame.


Aha ! Got it
Frank you had a typo... it is Electro 7 (Upper member of 4th set) Left pane
Date of first print November 1923
Page 28 Dix and Rowntree

Nicely solved Frank.
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Edited by rod222 - 11/05/2020 2:22 pm
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Itma, rod222,thanks for identifying. I look for and collect varieties for German stamps. I don't know anything about Australian stamps and catalogs. I bought a lot of George V stamps seeing your topic. The varieties on the German stamps are marked with I, II, III, IV, etc. added at the end of the catalog number. Please send me the coding (according to which catalog?) of this variety and catalog value. Thanks again for this job well done.
George
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George,
unable to assist apart from...(Opinion only)
Listed in early Dix and Rowntree Catalogue Electro 7
Not priced
They attempted a specialisation of the halfpenny impression.

Not listed in our "Bible" Brusden /White from what I can tell
I only have 2007 issue.
There, the stamp is listed as ACSC 66(7)

basic Value $3
All other flaws circa $25 mint, $20 mint hinged, $18used.

Suggestions if selling
ACSC 2007 #66(7) 1923 unlisted flaw right white frame
Noted in Dix Rowntree Electro 7 (Note 12)

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Sorry I was late to this party. I have the same stamp, Scott #20. I don't see the issue at top right corner.


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Posted 11/06/2020   01:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lovely scan Partime, that's how we like to see our Sidefaces

Postmark: Take your pick
Kayuga NSW
Feluga Queensland
Yuruga Queensland
Koyuga Victoria

1929 Late use (Make up stamp?)

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